Being blacklisted sucks

Yeah to the handful of souls who have been blacklisted by the vindictive schools out there, I pray for you and want to let your guys know that runners have been pulled by most if not all of us in the past.  But the strict transition "policies" that were meant to make things fair are only being used by the schools to get revenge on the louwai.  Please keep your heads up and know that there are better places for you to go to if this country doesn't want you here.  People who only want to use us for our knowledge but don't want to treat us as equals aren't worth losing sleep or energy over.  May all of you ppl find better jobs elsewhere.

Don't really disagree, but I wonder if there's a country where you can teach English, where you WILL be treated like an equal?
It certainly won't be China. Or anywhere else in Asia....

Curious...can you tell us how you got blacklisted?

Don't really disagree, but I wonder if there's a country where you can teach English, where you WILL be treated like an equal?
It certainly won't be China. Or anywhere else in Asia....

there isn't a place in the world where people are treated as equals unless you achieve poverty

Don't really disagree, but I wonder if there's a country where you can teach English, where you WILL be treated like an equal?
It certainly won't be China. Or anywhere else in Asia....

The answer is, of course, yes.  Become a real teacher and teach in an English-speaking country.  Teaching with no training and expecting to be treated as royalty is delusional at best.

I once convinced a newcomer that the school he works for is a really good place regardless of his assessment;

they wouldn't hire me

 

Being blacklisted sucks

I have always had the impression that was just BS. that didn't really happen.

Oh it's real all right, here's the link:

http://wwww.safea.gov.cn/content.php?id=12744690

What the mistake being made by many teachers nowadays is that we all assume that the contract isn't worth the paper that it's printed on, even if it's true.  However if we sign a contract that's a safea sanctioned contract even if the schools exploit us to high heaven if we leave(i.e. runner) they can report us the the GongAn and we will have this happen to us.  If it's a safea contract be careful.  With my personal experience the schools don't even NEED to get you a proper Z Visa.  Just a Resident Permit and an Expert Certificate will be justifiable enough for this to happen to you.  A PROPER Z visa as all of the experts on this forum would know is acquired before you come to China at the chinese embassy. 

Please be careful, the schools can just tell the Chinese Government that they NEVER signed any additional agreements with you except the safea contract.  Sometimes the school will ask you to sign 2 contracts, one a Safea and the other a "personal" one between you and the school.

Beware the blacklisted thing... though there is a local Ombudsman that I heard a laowai successfully appealed to after his school threatened to fire and blacklist him.

When you sign your contract you should also sign a secondary one which regards his sort-of judge.

Of course, we're all just pawns here and no doubt, like Dragonized rightly said, there must be better places around the world to teach and treated equally, albeit difficult to find.

As for worker rights, come on, no matter how great is our live in China and what we say on this and any other forum website, you just can't compare the "rights" in China with the far superior worker protection rights found in most Western countries. No comparison.

That's why there is such a degree of luck involved in finding a non-bastard employer to teach/work for in China!

It's the country, lifestyle and he'hem,,, girls, we mostly like! Cheap beer and cigarettes help too

Teaching with no training and expecting to be treated as royalty is delusional at best.

Funny...don't see that mentioned anywhere...

I think it is a necessary thing in some circumstances.

So, what does it actually say then? Does it just say what you did and your date of birth etc?

If you pull a runner, you should be black-listed.

Now if the school is treating you poorly, breaking your contract blah, blah blah, that is a separate issue. They should be held accountable. The fact that they may not be, that they can get away with it doesn't have anything to do with you getting black-listed for pulling a runner.

Party A has responsibilities. If they are broken that doesn't give Party B the right to break their responsibilities.

Being black-listed because of a personal problem with admin or the like is not the same - my sympathies. There may be times where pulling a runner is the best course of action for a situation but part of the price may be not working in that field again in that province.

FT may sometimes pull a runner because they don't like the city or they found a higher paying job. Sometimes there are consequences.

If you pull a runner, you should be black-listed.

Because it is sensible, and appropriate? Or, because these are Chinese people/Gov we are talking about?

If I just decided to blow off a job in the states, and not show up the Gov isn't going to be tracking it. As per people coming to the US on work visa's though I am not entirely sure what records if any are kept if said employee just decides to go back to their home country one day, pre contract term.

Are you sure that if you just blew off a job in the States, the government wouldn't track you? What if you were from say ...... Yemen? Would they pay attention.

It seems to me that many people expect that adhering to contracts is only for the employer and not for the employee.