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The Bar (ON-TOPIC) / Re: What Do Non-Natives Do Now? Student Visa Or Work Visa?
« Last post by Ivyman on December 13, 2023, 07:28:19 PM »Escaped Lunatic,
Thank you very much for the answer.
1. No matter what, I think the CELTA is good for anyone.
Ten years ago, my best friend (a doctor) would think it would be a "wasted cost" to spend the $3000 USD. But, as it turns out, it has opened so many doors.
Even with an Ivy League degree, no job in Saudi Arabia wanted me until I had the CELTA. In China, it seems any native speaker can get a job with a bachelor's degree and CELTA.
So, my friend was very incorrect in her analysis.
The fact that the CELTA may never be phased out also shows it might have a lifetime of value. 30 years of eligibility to work = $100 USD a year cost, made up for in wage increases.
2. I will see what can be done. Maybe it will be impossible for someone who is not from a Native 7 country to get legitimate employment with a legitimate work visa.
How then, is China managing?
I mean, the demand is as high as ever. Several hundred million people still want English teachers than before.
If people cannot work on tourist visas, student visas, be from non-Native countries, and many legitimate teachers are leaving China for personal reasons, how can the English teaching industry go on?
3. At least in my experience, I just see that the core institutions (public schools, quasi-public Guojibus, real international schools) live on as they always have. Training centers rise and fall as quickly as we saw with those "no more New Oriental and Wall Street English" laws, and private tutoring continues as covertly as any country.
Thank you very much for the answer.
1. No matter what, I think the CELTA is good for anyone.
Ten years ago, my best friend (a doctor) would think it would be a "wasted cost" to spend the $3000 USD. But, as it turns out, it has opened so many doors.
Even with an Ivy League degree, no job in Saudi Arabia wanted me until I had the CELTA. In China, it seems any native speaker can get a job with a bachelor's degree and CELTA.
So, my friend was very incorrect in her analysis.
The fact that the CELTA may never be phased out also shows it might have a lifetime of value. 30 years of eligibility to work = $100 USD a year cost, made up for in wage increases.
2. I will see what can be done. Maybe it will be impossible for someone who is not from a Native 7 country to get legitimate employment with a legitimate work visa.
How then, is China managing?
I mean, the demand is as high as ever. Several hundred million people still want English teachers than before.
If people cannot work on tourist visas, student visas, be from non-Native countries, and many legitimate teachers are leaving China for personal reasons, how can the English teaching industry go on?
3. At least in my experience, I just see that the core institutions (public schools, quasi-public Guojibus, real international schools) live on as they always have. Training centers rise and fall as quickly as we saw with those "no more New Oriental and Wall Street English" laws, and private tutoring continues as covertly as any country.