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Thanks, I was hoping for more elaboration, such as people in the US are motorcycles, etc. more.
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Noles already gave you a suggestion for this  bfbfbfbfbf

electric scooter all the way.
... Get a decent brand like NIU with built in GPS tracker.

Happy riding agagagagag
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: What's in the News
« Last post by Calach Pfeffer on June 26, 2021, 02:04:49 PM »
Getting "normal" is going to be a 5-10 year project. Vaccination currently more or less guarantees an end to serious disease and death, and it does slow down transmission, but it doesn't stop it completely. Herd immunity then is just the first part of whatever system has to stay in place for managing transmission. Outbreaks, lockdowns, border controls... they're going to be part of the international system for a while yet.

imo. notthenews
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Nolefan,

Thanks for the advice.

Where do I buy this scooter?  Any brand names, etc.?
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: What's in the News
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on June 25, 2021, 04:14:45 PM »
Based on Serrana, it looks like Sinovac requires about 75% vaccinated to see a big shift.  At 95% vaccinated (adults only), it does amazing things.  There are still cases, but they are much less severe.

Unless one of those other countries pushes to 75% or beyond, a true comparison will be difficult.

Similar issues are seen in the US where people say "but half the people in town got the RNA vaccines and we're still having cases."  Even 10% vaccinated will have some effect, but that can be washed out by other issues.  There's a tipping point for herd immunity where enough transmission chains get broken.  The more infection the pathogen is, the higher the percent needed (for example, due to being VERY infectious, measles requires an extremely high percent of immune people to seriously slow down an outbreak).

My primary worry about the RNA vaccines is that they are very specifically targeted.  So far, none of the variants seem to have altered the target sequence, but if a new one did, that would require a new version of the vaccine.  An inactivated virus vaccine may be less effective, but it shows the entire virus to the immune system, so should be effective against a wide range of variants of the virus.
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: What's in the News
« Last post by Nolefan on June 24, 2021, 07:32:24 AM »
Jab enough people and it works, sure but definitely not with sinovac. Take a look at Chile, The Seychelles, Mongolia just to name a few as countries with almost 70% vaccination rate that are going through another heavy wave of lockdowns and having their emergency rooms slammed.
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electric scooter all the way.
That's the best way to get around beijing with bo hassles etc... Get a decent brand like NIU with built in GPS tracker etc to avoid having it stolen. The battery life is even good enough to get you downtown and back in some cases.

Honestly, 14 years in Beijing, that's the best transport way ever.
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: What's in the News
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on June 22, 2021, 03:59:42 PM »
What would happen if 95% of the adults in a town in an area with a large number of Covid-19 cases were all vaccinated (80% with Sinovac's Coronavac vaccine)?

When the vaccination rate hit 75%, cases plummeted.  Now the town is an island of normalcy surrounded by towns still struggling with the disease.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/06/brazilian-town-experiment-shows-mass-vaccination-can-wipe-out-covid-19

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/06/americas/serrana-vaccination-experiment-intl-latam/index.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-57309538

So, for anyone pointing to cases not plunging in areas with 50 or even 60% vaccination rates, the problem isn't the vaccines.  It's failure to reach the critical level for herd immunity to break the chains of transmission.

If you aren't vaccinated, pick a vaccine (any gov't approved vaccine) and get yourself vaccinated.

If you are vaccinated, encourage your friends, family, and coworkers to get vaccinated.



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The Champagne Cabana / Re: What's in the News
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on June 22, 2021, 03:47:21 PM »
04 June 2021
WHO approval of Chinese CoronaVac COVID vaccine will be crucial to curbing pandemic
CoronaVac is one of two Chinese vaccines already sustaining vaccination campaigns in more than 70 nations. Both should soon be much more widely available to low-income countries.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01497-8

There was a study showing a 51% effectiveness rate.  People who keep pointing to that study ignore one other statistic from the same study:

This overall protection is lower than that provided by the seven other vaccines already listed by the WHO. But, importantly, trials suggest that CoronaVac — an inactivated-virus vaccine produced by Beijing-based company Sinovac — is 100% effective at preventing severe disease and death.

And to put things further into perspective:

The WHO’s efficacy estimate of 51% was based on data from late-stage trials among health-care workers in Brazil, posted online as a preprint1 in April. Of the 9,823 participants included in the analysis, 253 had COVID-19 — 85 in the vaccinated group and 168 among those who received the placebo. None of the vaccinated volunteers was hospitalized or died owing to COVID-19. Smaller, late-stage trials in Indonesia and Turkey have shown higher efficacies of up to 84%.

Preliminary findings from a post-trial study of 2.5 million people in Chile estimated that CoronaVac was 67% effective at preventing COVID-19, and 80% effective at preventing death from the disease, despite the presence of the Alpha (B.1.1.7) and Gamma (P.1) variants of the virus SARS-CoV-2.



My personal best advice to anyone is Get vaccinated NOW!  Every COVAX approved vaccine (and a number of others awaiting approval) is better than no vaccine.  Every vaccinated person slows down the spread of the virus.
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: What's in the News
« Last post by Calach Pfeffer on June 20, 2021, 12:54:35 AM »
China's most belligerent journalists used to be the ones doling out insults online. Now they're the targets

Reporters from China's jingoistic government-owned media outlet the Global Times have become the latest targets of an increasingly radical wave of nationalism sweeping through the world's largest country....
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