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The Champagne Cabana / Re: Happy Birthday Stripy Emperor!
« Last post by AMonk on November 18, 2022, 02:14:51 AM »
Happy Birthday, Your Majesty
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Happy Birthday, Your Majesty
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: Happy Birthday Stripy Emperor!
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on November 17, 2022, 06:13:51 PM »Unlike last year, this year I get to hug him, squeeze him, and tell him
His Furry Majesty is 7 years old today and is demanding extra cat treats to celebrate!
His Furry Majesty is 7 years old today and is demanding extra cat treats to celebrate!
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The Legalities Board: Visas, Permits, Taxes, and More! (ON-TOPIC) / Re: From Green to Red
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on November 15, 2022, 07:55:35 PM »I would be less worried if there was some way to login and check the status - especially if it showed "last updated" so I'd be able to tell if it's getting work done on it.
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The Legalities Board: Visas, Permits, Taxes, and More! (ON-TOPIC) / Re: From Green to Red
« Last post by El Macho on November 14, 2022, 06:18:40 PM »Patience is the name of the game in immigration. Good luck!!
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The Bar (ON-TOPIC) / Re: Inbound quarantine reduction from 7+3 to 5+3 and some other changes
« Last post by El Macho on November 14, 2022, 06:16:55 PM »Lots of good news here, hoping it allows for some much needed and long overdue family reunifications.
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The Bar (ON-TOPIC) / Inbound quarantine reduction from 7+3 to 5+3 and some other changes
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on November 14, 2022, 04:43:48 PM »Those entering China now face 5 days in Q, plus 3 of home healthcare monitoring, down from 7+3.
Preflight tests have been reduced from 2 to 1.
Circuit breakers that suspend flights for having too many who arrive/turn positive in Q have been removed.
Lots of other adjustments being made.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/11/china-trims-covid-quarantine-time-by-two-days.html
https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/11/11/china-relaxes-travel-restrictions-all-you-need-to-know-about-tests-quarantine-and-flights
Only needing one test confirmed here:
http://us.china-embassy.gov.cn/eng/zytz/202211/t20221113_10973328.htm
Preflight tests have been reduced from 2 to 1.
Circuit breakers that suspend flights for having too many who arrive/turn positive in Q have been removed.
Lots of other adjustments being made.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/11/china-trims-covid-quarantine-time-by-two-days.html
https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/11/11/china-relaxes-travel-restrictions-all-you-need-to-know-about-tests-quarantine-and-flights
Only needing one test confirmed here:
http://us.china-embassy.gov.cn/eng/zytz/202211/t20221113_10973328.htm
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The Bar (ON-TOPIC) / Re: Do Chinese Have Worse Business Moral Codes Than Us? Or, Just Different?
« Last post by kitano on November 11, 2022, 07:46:58 AM »It's just a lack of regulation and laws.
The Chinese state makes a point of being confusing. There are a lot of great documentaries and there are a lot of great neorealist films from the 00s about how the government works at different levels, and even the people who are well off don't seem to know what is going on. I'd imagine that Xi doesn't know what is going on, it suits a lot of people to have this guy with a heritage who loves all of that nationalism and the Communist hymns and stuff to be seen as the emperor.
He was probably chosen for saying that he wants China to win the World Cup
But Europe has very strong laws protecting workers rights, and we see USA in the same way only less extreme, there are not laws protecting people to the same degree, so in the US you get much worse social insurance, worse food, lower wages for unskilled workers etc etc etc
And another way to argue that it's not cultural is if you look at how the illegal workers are treated, it is not that dissimilar being a migrant with no citizens rights in Europe, US, China or anywhere, if people can they will.
As EL said, in China the informal connections are super strong, if people trust you they really really really look out for you, it's quite jarring to middle class westerners where we trust the law more than 50% and don't have a culture of government's collapsing and so on, if people accept you here it becomes the same as immediate family.
tl:dr Ethics are not national phenomena so much as historical and situational lol
The Chinese state makes a point of being confusing. There are a lot of great documentaries and there are a lot of great neorealist films from the 00s about how the government works at different levels, and even the people who are well off don't seem to know what is going on. I'd imagine that Xi doesn't know what is going on, it suits a lot of people to have this guy with a heritage who loves all of that nationalism and the Communist hymns and stuff to be seen as the emperor.
He was probably chosen for saying that he wants China to win the World Cup
But Europe has very strong laws protecting workers rights, and we see USA in the same way only less extreme, there are not laws protecting people to the same degree, so in the US you get much worse social insurance, worse food, lower wages for unskilled workers etc etc etc
And another way to argue that it's not cultural is if you look at how the illegal workers are treated, it is not that dissimilar being a migrant with no citizens rights in Europe, US, China or anywhere, if people can they will.
As EL said, in China the informal connections are super strong, if people trust you they really really really look out for you, it's quite jarring to middle class westerners where we trust the law more than 50% and don't have a culture of government's collapsing and so on, if people accept you here it becomes the same as immediate family.
tl:dr Ethics are not national phenomena so much as historical and situational lol
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The Bar (ON-TOPIC) / Re: Do Chinese Have Worse Business Moral Codes Than Us? Or, Just Different?
« Last post by Ivyman on November 11, 2022, 03:21:25 AM »Thank you!
I think your advice is quite sound.
I will volunteer for a modest project of extra work, such as 5-10 focused man-hours.
If my workplace remembers it, compensate it with time off or other things that don't cost extra money, then I can do.
If they do not, then maybe it is just not worth it to do extra next time.
I think your advice is quite sound.
I will volunteer for a modest project of extra work, such as 5-10 focused man-hours.
If my workplace remembers it, compensate it with time off or other things that don't cost extra money, then I can do.
If they do not, then maybe it is just not worth it to do extra next time.
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The Legalities Board: Visas, Permits, Taxes, and More! (ON-TOPIC) / Re: From Green to Red
« Last post by AMonk on November 10, 2022, 01:30:29 AM »Govt red tape 
Hang on there, EL
Hang on there, EL
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The Legalities Board: Visas, Permits, Taxes, and More! (ON-TOPIC) / Re: From Green to Red
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on November 09, 2022, 11:23:01 PM »April 2022: I found out about something called the NIA. - The Chinese National Immigration Administration. (en.nia.gov.cn)
They are a good resource for any and all questions regarding foreigners in China, Green Cards, etc. I got on their live chat around the end of the month to ask about my citizenship application. They took my info. A few days later, a call came from the DG office. They confirmed the application was still in Guangzhou and said to be patient.
November 2022: I tried NIA live chat again. This time I think I got someone still in training, so no instructions other than to call the hotline. The call ended up with someone who took down the info and promised to call back. The call just came. Again, assurances that my application was being processed, but that DG had no way to tell when GZ would send it up to Beijing, reject it, or ask for more info. Again, patience was recommended.
President Xi had to apply 10 times to be admitted to the CPC. That took less than 2 years. If I am rejected I will apply as many times as I have to in order to be accepted for Chinese citizenship, I will. If it takes over 3 years each time, I'm not sure I will live long enough if it takes 10 tries.
No matter what, I'll become a Chinese citizen or I'll die trying.
They are a good resource for any and all questions regarding foreigners in China, Green Cards, etc. I got on their live chat around the end of the month to ask about my citizenship application. They took my info. A few days later, a call came from the DG office. They confirmed the application was still in Guangzhou and said to be patient.
November 2022: I tried NIA live chat again. This time I think I got someone still in training, so no instructions other than to call the hotline. The call ended up with someone who took down the info and promised to call back. The call just came. Again, assurances that my application was being processed, but that DG had no way to tell when GZ would send it up to Beijing, reject it, or ask for more info. Again, patience was recommended.
President Xi had to apply 10 times to be admitted to the CPC. That took less than 2 years. If I am rejected I will apply as many times as I have to in order to be accepted for Chinese citizenship, I will. If it takes over 3 years each time, I'm not sure I will live long enough if it takes 10 tries.
No matter what, I'll become a Chinese citizen or I'll die trying.