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The Champagne Cabana / Adventures with Cats
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on March 05, 2025, 10:45:20 PM »
I've had quite a few adventures with cats since Stripy Emperor took over.  This one was more exhausting than usual.

At a smaller vegetable shop near our house there was a stray pregnant cat.  Since we'd just gotten another stray adopted out, my lovely wife thought grabbing this one would be a good idea.

It was all going so well.  The correct cat got caught in the live catch trap.  My wife brought her back in the cage.  The next step was to convince her to move to the cat purse and take her for a luxury stay at the vet office until she was ready for sterilization and release once the kittens were old enough for adoption.

As I was about to get dressed (all I had on was a bathrobe), she somehow forced her way out of the cage and headed down the stairwell.  We had to find a way to corner her.  My wife and I kept using the elevator for one of us to get ahead of her as she led us up and down the stairwell.  Thankfully, no one else in the building came out to see why I was dashing about in a bathrobe, but one food deliver guy was a bit startled.

After much chasing up and down, she found an emergency exit via climbing out out an unsecured stairwell window, moving down the security bars a short distance, then twisting and leaping out into space, followed by a fairly graceful landing on the roof next door (the house I used to live in).  From there, she got to the next roof.  Thankfully, she seemed uninjured.  My wife and I nearly had heart attacks when she dropped.

At that point, I decided more clothing was probably a good idea.  My wife got the cage re-baited and we placed on the roof next door.  It was easy for the cat to go over to the other roof, but was a bit too precarious for my taste.  Now we're waiting for the person who rents the top level apartment there to get home and give us access.

My own cats were quite amused by all the shouting during the great stairway hunt.  I think I need a nap.
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: What Are You Reading??
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on March 04, 2025, 04:48:09 PM »
Three Body Problem (the whole trilogy - English version).

Overall, EXCELLENT!  I do have a few quibbles with errors in some of the non-speculative physics and technology (For example: Despite persistent rumors to the contrary, microwaves do NOT cook food from the middle first.  If you don't believe me, throw a block of frozen meat in, nuke it for 2 minutes, and cut it in half and you'll see for yourself.), but the story itself is amazing and most of the known physics is correct.  Also, none of the speculative physics completely wrecks the currently known laws of the universe, which is something a lot of lesser writers don't seem to worry about.

Now I just need to find my quantum mechanics tool box (it's VERY tiny, so it often gets misplaced) and try test out an interesting idea on a stray proton.
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The Bar (ON-TOPIC) / Re: Can We Speak About Useful Social Rules in China?
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on February 26, 2025, 04:01:06 PM »
A lot of this is far more COMPANY specific than COUNTRY specific.

For example, rewarding those who go above and beyond is far more related to the workplace culture imposed by company management than by any generic "this is how country X does it."  For example, I've been rewarded, ignored, or even actively mistreated for going above and beyond at various jobs inside the USA.  I hear tales of all 3 happening to people at various jobs inside of China.

It is true that China does have a stronger leaning towards reciprocating favors, but I'd love to see how someone can "make sure" a boss returns a favor.

Lately, news from the government about work has been mostly good news, at least for workers.  The government has become more and more active at both improving labor regulations as well as enforcing them.

The housing "crisis" of falling prices primarily affects development companies, construction workers, and those who were counting on rising prices for income.  People who make their incomes by flipping houses have a bad habit of buying too many properties.  For an individual who bought 1 house for the purposes of living in it long-term, the current resale value has no bearing on the monthly mortgage payment (and interest rates have fallen, so most housing loan payments have actually gone down), so steak can remain on the menu.  Unlike 2008 in the USA, the Chinese banks didn't repackage loans into bonds to raise money to make more loans (that got repackaged into bonds that raised money for more loans over and over again).  So, unlike the USA, there has been zero risk of any major bank failures or a system-wide financial collapse because real estate prices dropped.

You are correct that China values stability more than the west.  China saw what happened in 2008 and said "That's not going to happen here." which is why banks didn't have the option of recycling the same money over and over again to make a bigger, faster, and massively more dangerous price bubble.
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: Wow ... this forum is still here!
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on February 26, 2025, 03:36:15 PM »
Even though you may not be able to relay new info about being in China, that doesn't mean you have nothing of use to share.

For example, I keep finding out about great new offshore movies and TV series a couple years after they come out.  The Cabana has threads for movies, TV series, and books.  Help a poor old Lunatic (and others who are lurking inside of China) out with occasional updates about English language entertainment.
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Thank you for all the points.

You mix theoretical economics and practical insight ("common sense"?). Unfortunately, most economic experts fail at the latter.

It sounds like I will be okay in China. It is just a question of whether my best effort saves me $2K USD a month (bad economy) or $4K+ USD a month (boom economy).

Just keep working hard, learning in the classroom and on the job, saving more, investing in international retirement accounts.
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The Bar (ON-TOPIC) / Can We Speak About Useful Social Rules in China?
« Last post by Ivyman on February 23, 2025, 02:16:18 AM »
Hi Everyone,

I hope you are well.

I was thinking about different social rules that are true in China, but not necessarily true in our Western countries.

I was hoping we could list what we have seen, time and again. Perhaps it could help in our work lives and personal lives.

I know this forum tends to be mature, with no smart aleck comments, etc. that are rude "don't fall off the street drinking baiju" type deal.

I also have consulted GPT, DeepSeek, and Grok. I am guessing a few people have even written books.

Can anyone give me their take?


What I have seen is:

1. At the workplace, things almost always perform less than a Western standard. (Car company production efficiency, schools, etc.). It can be a personal choice to go above and beyond; just realize there is a low chance it will be rewarded.

2. "When a boss asks a favor, make sure you are paid or he agrees to give a favor back."

Traditional Chinese society is very reciprocal, and will give well. Other bosses just feel entitled and enjoy taking advantage.

3. Chinese society is more agreeable than the West. Feel free to help others out, just know when to put your foot down.

4. Consult a lawyer before signing any paperwork. Just like in the West, companies love waivers of release, etc. to later further an agenda.

5. In the workplace, government, etc. "no news is usually good news."

So, if you want to make a big change, make sure to do it with furthering an after-school degree, engaging in a lot of exercise, or something that does not draw any attention to yourself.

6. Chinese tend to "good gossip," and "bad gossip," about everything.

So, even if your boss or big company does not reward every good deed, many regular students, families, etc. tend to know what good quality material is. If you are exceptionally skilled, pretty, etc. people may even come to you.

7. China values stability far more than the West.

Even with the housing crises, economic downturn of China, etc. it is would be very surprising if China would collapse, the way the USA housing market did in 2008, or Brexit hurt the UK.

Rather, it it more "we eat chicken these days," versus "we eat steak these days."
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: Wow ... this forum is still here!
« Last post by never2late on February 22, 2025, 04:46:56 AM »
in my case, I am definitely getting older. Oh, I am still 19, as I have been for half a century now, but it's getting harder to prove. And this spring (in a few weeks, actually) I'm moving to Canada. Settling my family down, getting the youngest into school, and learning to breathe clean Canadian air. I hope it doesn't hurt my lungs too much. The next time I come to China, it won't be for work. Fuggedabowdit. I'm due some foreign tourist time next time.
And so, as much as I value the friendships and everything I have gotten from the saloon, there just isn't that much that I have left to give. Or anticipate having to give in the future. I will still lurk like a villain in the shadows, because over the years this has been a special place for me. But I'm certainly not in the vanguard any more.
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: Movie/film thread: resurrected
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on February 19, 2025, 04:43:47 PM »
Ne Zha 2 (2025)

I definitely recommend seeing the original first.  Otherwise, the . . . unusual status of the two main characters at the beginning will likely seem a little odd.

The first movie is well worth watching, but the second is better.  The animation quality is at least as good as major US animation releases if not better.  The story line is well written and includes some good plot twists.

Don't rush out the door when the credits roll.  Your patience will be well rewarded.
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: Wow ... this forum is still here!
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on February 10, 2025, 09:05:58 PM »
Yeah, all 3 of those hurt, some in more ways than others.  ananananan

Still, getting some more of our old archaic decrepit longstanding and highly experienced members to post occasionally would make the Saloon more attractive to potential new members.

Could we maybe promote the forum on Reddit or somewhere?

If anyone active on other social media wants to drop mentions of the main saloon URL or links to some of our content, that certainly wouldn't hurt our chances of finding some new members.
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: Wow ... this forum is still here!
« Last post by AMonk on February 10, 2025, 12:38:03 AM »
Sadly, we've got very few active members.  If we could just get a few more, this place would look a bit less like an empty shopping mall.

The issue, as I see it, is primarily 2-fold:-
1) We are all getting old(er). Past our prime(?) and with much less than our original joie de vivre
2) Many / most of us have moved out of PRC and therefore have a severe lessening of our interest in China and her happenings.




And ...
3) Jefe died. 
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