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Hi Everyone,

I am wondering what the current rules are for us ex-patriates to get into China, or leave.

1. Is is true that our friends, family, etc. can come visit us in China, it is just very difficult?

My guess is there are work visas, humanitarian visas, and even student visas, but it is rare to get one, costs a lot of money, and plane tickets + quarantine costs just make is so expensive and inconvenient?

2. What about Chinese nationals?

My guess is that Chinese nationals can leave China. But, to come back is possible, just very long, costly, slow,  otherwise a complete pain in the neck.
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The Bar (ON-TOPIC) / Will It Matter Where I Get Second Bachelor's From?
« Last post by Ivyman on December 04, 2022, 09:52:39 AM »
Hi Everyone,

Anyone who knows me knows that I am very dissatisfied with my bachelor's degree, in history.

1. For years, I have been thinking about, and accepted to, different second bachelor's programs.

I was a good student, so I can get accepted to many places. Rather, it is keeping focus to stay in, and pay for it, that matters to me.

2. I have many different interests. So, up to $10,000 USD for one year of online study, for a second bachelor's degree, may not be bad at all.

3. I am just wondering "what will count in China, and perhaps the rest of the world?"

Yes, for-profit schools like University of Phoenix will give something to me. But, not many people would value that.

Even accredited and great schools, like Open University of the UK, would be seen as something less than stellar.

4. I am thinking about decent state schools, such as Louisiana State University, Arizona State University, or others that are real schools, just developed massive online programs that grant courses.

5. I know University of South Africa (UNISA) seems the best deal.

1500 USD for an entire year of study online, in one of the seven native countries, and the Chinese government recognizes it: jsj.moe.gov.cn

6. Any opinions?

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The Bar (ON-TOPIC) / How Can a Friend from Pakistan Work in China?
« Last post by Ivyman on December 04, 2022, 09:03:18 AM »
Hi Everyone,

1. I made an online contact from Pakistan. To be nice, I will refer to her as a friend, because she seems nice, too.

2. She does have a bachelor's and M. Phil in science, from Pakistan.

She really wants to do children's teaching, including in China, but cannot find a visa sponsor.

Ordinarily, I think many people would let her do a trial teacher session, and give her a job.

3. Any way we can get her to China?

I mean, she comes across is attractive, warm-hearted, has a British accent, smart girl, loves kids, teaches well.

4. What options can we recommend:

a. Coming on a student visa, eventually transitioning to an X2 visa, and later full time work?

b. Waiting a few years, until borders re-open?

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The Bar (ON-TOPIC) / Re: Found Great Website for Novice ESL Teachers; Anything Else?
« Last post by Ivyman on December 04, 2022, 09:00:23 AM »
Very good. Thanks for the info.

I appreicate this great forum with you, Escaped Lunatic, and a few others.

I wish there were a few more.
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The Bar (ON-TOPIC) / Re: Found Great Website for Novice ESL Teachers; Anything Else?
« Last post by AMonk on December 01, 2022, 01:45:30 AM »
Great site find. agagagagag



Also, look into the Teacher Tips room.  Many very good pieces of advice are to be found there, as well as a plethora of resources recommendations.  Even if some are a wee bit dated, you can still glean a gem or two. bjbjbjbjbj
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The Bar (ON-TOPIC) / Found Great Website for Novice ESL Teachers; Anything Else?
« Last post by Ivyman on November 28, 2022, 06:59:10 AM »
Hi Everyone,

We know China's ESL market is perhaps the largest in the world.

Yes, we are all qualified and eager to do things besides ESL teaching; but, the sheer demand for ESL teachers in China is what makes us perpetually employable.

Still, how do we know how to do great ESL teaching?

Even with my CELTA, I ask myself that question, as it seems less clear than something like math teaching.

I recently found one such free site that explains the basics of English teaching well, and comprehensively : https://www.eltconcourse.com/training/courses/basic/introduction_basic.html

Can anyone beat me, by finding a better website?

In basic physics, science, and research it seems the very cardinal, irrefutable rules are hard to come by. We are still discovering.

For teaching and learning, it still seems so. The only thing I can tell my students is, practice each day, like training for a marathon or climb Mt. Everest: (1) know where you are starting from, (2) know where you want to go, (3) chart a course, and (4) do not be lazy, and (5) do not over-exert yourself.
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: Happy Birthday Stripy Emperor!
« Last post by AMonk on November 18, 2022, 02:14:51 AM »
 :respect:
Happy Birthday, Your Majesty agagagagag
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: Happy Birthday Stripy Emperor!
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on November 17, 2022, 06:13:51 PM »
Unlike last year, this year I get to hug him, squeeze him, and tell him

HAPPY BIRTHDAY STRIPY EMPEROR! akakakakak cecececece cecececece cecececece cecececece cecececece cecececece cecececece akakakakak
His Furry Majesty is 7 years old today and is demanding extra cat treats to celebrate! :candyraver:
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I would be less worried if there was some way to login and check the status - especially if it showed "last updated" so I'd be able to tell if it's getting work done on it.
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Patience is the name of the game in immigration. Good luck!!
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