English Teaching or Less Demanded Fields?

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English Teaching or Less Demanded Fields?
« on: July 14, 2024, 11:13:59 PM »
Hi Everyone,

If you are up to it, I wanted to have some discussion about fields to go into.

1. In my case, I got into English teaching because of demand versus supply.

Outside of a Western country, it seems like anyone willing to teach English can get a job.

Sometimes, as we have seen, pay and living conditions are as meager as they can get. At other extremes, like Saudi Aramco, housing can be sweet and pay can be $10K a month (tax-free).

2. Rather, the key debate seems to be:

a. Teach English, where there is always demand for someone. Alas, there is no real upward trajectory.
b. Try a subject field

3. In my own life, I am a very mediocre English teacher. Honestly, I give myself a C-, at best.

I have failed so many students in teaching and tutoring, no matter how much I love them.

4. However, there is some hope in my education and training:

a. When I have tutored students in history, social sciences, etc. they always seem quite satisfied.
b. Just this last May, I suddenly tutored some students for AP World History. After only a few sessions, one got a 4 and another got a 5. To be clear, this has very little to do with me and so much to do with their superb intelligence and work ethic. But, it proves I can get results with history, etc.

Other past examples include a sixteen-year-old student of mine getting a 5 on AP Geography, despite me not having any teaching experience. The list goes on and on with tutoring, and some classroom teaching.

c. With counseling, I seem to have done better. In my entire career, I have worked deeply with 200 students. 100 from other countries; 100 are from China. I can honestly say that I have gotten 100% of them to their top-choice schools.

I know Chinese love results, and want to hear "I want 100% guarantee I can get my kid into Harvard." But, even my mentors, who have been counseling 10,000+ students for 30+ years, can only get to 95 or 98% success.

5. Anybody want to give advice?

6. Right now, I am trying to take this school year to work less, but focus on:

a. Finishing a Moreland Teaching credential (to become a real state-licensed history teacher)
b. Finish a counseling degree (to become a state licensed counselor_
c. Apply for IECA membership (to be an independent consultant)

It sounds like ESL is a great fallback, but it does not give me the joy that history, social studies, and counseling does. Hence, stick with the latter, simply because I am more energized.

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Re: English Teaching or Less Demanded Fields?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2024, 03:33:56 PM »
If you enjoy teaching other subjects more, then getting credentialled in those is a good idea.  Don't forget, there are International Schools in China that need good teachers.
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Re: English Teaching or Less Demanded Fields?
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2024, 07:02:41 PM »
strikes me as an easy decision to make. Follow what you are good at, what you enjoy doing. Nice to have a fallback if you need it, but you won't get to do and be who you want by staying at your fallback position.

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Re: English Teaching or Less Demanded Fields?
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2024, 10:17:04 AM »
Very good.

The problem is that people initially showed an interest in me being a counselor or history teacher, but they switched me to ESL.

What is worse, when they frame it as "you are doing me a favor by teaching ESL now," then my performance is poor. They do not want me later if my performance is poor.

1. I know I must get more credentials. I am trying to do it piece by piece.

2. Right now, it seems I am relying on ESL to pay my bills. I need to make my expectations clear to employers, and see what we can do.