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I agree.

Yesterday, I recommended that this person focus on getting into a master's program there (Finland), paying for it, and living there.

If they find living there is worth it and opportunities are possible, they will make it work.

I appreciate your advice.

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The Champagne Cabana / Re: What's Making Me Happy!
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on September 22, 2023, 02:25:37 AM »
Saw my final high schooler today.  Not sure if we'll hit that local university next week or not.
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I think you need to recheck the status of a lot of countries.  Anyone from China involved in certain science and engineering fields will find themselves not exactly welcomed with open arms in the US.  Instead, Chinese researchers are moving back to China or heading elsewhere to get away from the US.

The US is barely avoiding a recession right now and much of Europe is already there.  A couple of those northern countries are in the process of joing NATO and are having to spend a ton more money on defense - and much of that defense committment is an annual thing instead of a 1 time purchase.  Meanwhile Germany is having budget cuts in a lot of programs that made it a desireable place to relocate to.  If the German economy is under strain, what does that say about the rest of Europe?

At this point, I'm not making ANY exceptions to my advice of "try living there for at least 6 months before comitting" advice.  Being there as a student would count, but a student will need to spend some time researching how taxes and other issues will affect them if they try to get a career there.


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I got to live that changeover in fast forward.  I left on a trip just when they announced a plan to end quarantine and got back to HK just as the land borders reopened for regular traffic.
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You missed out on the part about the vaccine and most recent antigen test app.  I just got a new tablet and it feels weird not having those.

My wife loves shopping and does all the Taobou searching and buying for me.

I was freaked out coming here that I would have issues because of the COVID paranoia but have not even seen it mentioned.
They did a temperature check in the airport but nobody even wears masks.
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The Bar (ON-TOPIC) / Where Can People Go For Mental Health Therapy?
« Last post by Ivyman on September 19, 2023, 11:51:08 PM »
Hi Everyone,

As we all know, it is very normal for many people to have psychological health problems.

Thankfully, even regular things like post pardum depression, school anxiety, are not seen as something typical that can be worked through.

1. Any student, co-worker, or friend that has a problem, I recommend seeing a psychiatrist. Thankfully, in the big cities, there are big public hospitals that offer psychiatric diagnosis and medication at a fraction of the cost of the US.

2. But, what about psychological therapy?


3. Are there any big public hospitals that can do therapy, in Chinese or English?

That way, social insurance, etc. will pay some or all of the bill?

4. Failing that, how to research therapists in China?


I know high-quality privately run clinics like Beijing Family United have excellent foreign doctors from the US, Japan, etc.

But, expect to pay $100-300 USD an hour for even the most basic, regular services. My guess is this would be the cost for therapy.
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Thanks! I will tell them your well-intentioned and sound advice.

1. Of course, any well-known country would probably be fine, even without being there.

For example, Australia, New Zealand, the five Nordic countries, Western Europe, UK, US, Canada should be fine. They are so multi-faceted that someone will not be "screwed" if they move there and find out they do not like it.

These people were never so daft as to defect to a place like Vanuatu or those smaller island countries.

2. Perhaps they are trying to think too many steps ahead.

a. First, simply pick an education program they want. For example, that masters in Finland.

b. Second, spend the 1-2 years living there, seeing if you want to trade a life in China for a life in another country.

c. If it is important, fight for it. Immigration to the five Nordic countries often takes 5-10 years and language requirements, but can be worth it.
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: What's Making Me Happy!
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on September 19, 2023, 10:15:03 PM »
I saw 4 more of them today.  That leave's one high schooler and one student at a local university.  There are others who are in Universities farther away, and there are others at various levels of schooling in other towns.
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: What's Making Me Happy!
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on September 19, 2023, 04:25:53 AM »
I lost count of how many schools I visited today.  I did see one of my kids.  Hopefully I can see a few more as things progress.  Some I won't get a chance to see, because they are off at college.
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