scotto858
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« on: June 28, 2012, 02:28:52 PM » |
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So.... I have tried the method of checking Wikipedia's university listing for Guangdong, and emailing everyone on the list. I have tried some of the job boards in the links section, and I have tried the one (recent) Guangdong job in the job listing section. I also tried going to Guangdong's government site and emailing the emails on their list.
But how much mail can a' he E-mail, without gettin nailed with a job pray tell?
I understand that this is a well trod topic, and my posting this is pretty redundant, but if anyone has a sliver of info about how to get a job in Guangdong (guangzhao, hong kong, macao)... i will trade karma points or vials of my own sweat.
I am at the point of craftiness. sending pictures of me with my cat to show my tender soul. including riddles and poetry in the emails to demonstrate my wit. maybe photoshopping famous people into my pictures so they think I am important.
Any ideas will be appreciated. I won't really send sweat to anyone.
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Raoul F. Duke
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2012, 02:48:34 PM » |
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Have you tried any Guangzhou or Shenzhen local sites? There are links to a few in the Links pages...
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2012, 03:27:33 PM » |
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Those are difficult areas to get a job in, IMHO...HK and Macau especially...you would have to have some pretty darn good credentials to land a position there. Other than that, scour all the job sites you can find for job listings. It is not difficult to land a job in China, but some areas require more experience and such...put it simply, a copy of your TESOL/TOEFL Certificate and your Masters'/PhD diploma and the long list of references and quite possibly publications will get you a job in Hong Kong or Macau, cute pictures of cats will not.
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2012, 04:04:47 PM » |
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What he said...getting work in HK or Macao is a totally different animal than finding work in Guangdong province or anywhere else in Mainland China. HK and Macao are still independently administered territories; competition for jobs there is pretty fierce and the standards are quite high. A real teaching credential, a graduate degree, and/or some pretty serious teaching experience will be definite advantages there.
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scotto858
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2012, 05:23:10 PM » |
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I plan on living/working in Westchester and commuting to Manhattan. Anywhere near Macao/HongKong works. and eric, you have not seen my cat, she melts iron. (or butter, in china  ) |
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2012, 05:41:18 PM » |
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Senor Duke, I don't see a Guangzhou specific website in the Job Info tab or the Location Specific tab... but I am gettin the scoop at ShenzhenParty.com
I am definitely going to continue poking around, and I don't want to be like the lazy hitchhiker that just sits there and waits for a lift-- but many times a solid solution has come by just getting a nudge in the right direction, so I post.
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2012, 07:04:44 PM » |
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Senor Duke, I don't see a Guangzhou specific website in the Job Info tab or the Location Specific tab... They're there, but not on the Location Specific tab and admittedly requiring some work to find. I'll try to make them easier to find... Meanwhile, try these direct links... http://thatsmags.com/prd/http://guangzhou.asiaxpat.com/ |
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2012, 05:24:49 AM » |
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Definitely keep looking at Shenzhenparty.com. Best way into a university is to check their websites. If your credentials are high enough, I can point you to the grad school at which I taught (but I don't know if they're hiring right now).
Shenzhen University is always hiring oral English teachers. I think they pay about 8000/mo. I've heard it's an easy job, but the interviewer pissed me off with stupid questions in broken English (I ended up with a better job at the grad school).
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2012, 07:39:43 AM » |
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Definitely keep looking at Shenzhenparty.com. Best way into a university is to check their websites. If your credentials are high enough, I can point you to the grad school at which I taught (but I don't know if they're hiring right now).
Shenzhen University is always hiring oral English teachers. I think they pay about 8000/mo. I've heard it's an easy job, but the interviewer pissed me off with stupid questions in broken English (I ended up with a better job at the grad school).
could you tell me what the stupid qs were? just interested |
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2012, 01:53:51 PM » |
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Fozz, first question was "Can I have your diploma?" I more or less stopped listening after that. Didn't ask anything about teaching experience.
This woman couldn't give me directions from the university gate to her office. She couldn't understand the simple questions I asked her. She obviously just wanted to hire a warm body to stand in a classroom.
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2012, 07:18:10 PM » |
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China-Matt -- I am not really concerned with all that stuff, I will be the warm body. I have gotten 1 reply out of all the emails I've sent. So I fired another ball of email over to Shenzhen (probably their janitorial department)-- I have already enslaved myself here in NY as an endless labor-slave. Anything could be considered an improvement. My credentials are a BA degree, beginner mandarin, and some experience teaching folks here and there something or other. I am banking on enthusiasm and luck.  |
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2012, 09:50:11 PM » |
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My credentials are a BA degree, beginner mandarin, and some experience teaching folks here and there something or other. Without a TESOL/TEFL/CELTA/DELTA certificate and at least two years experience teaching English (in a foreign country) it's highly unlikely any uni would be able to get your Work Permit and Letter of Invitation. |
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2012, 10:35:22 PM » |
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Without a TESOL/TEFL/CELTA/DELTA certificate and at least two years experience teaching English (in a foreign country) it's highly unlikely any uni would be able to get your Work Permit and Letter of Invitation.
This is not true. The basic legal requirements are: (1) A bachelor degree (in anything); and (2) Either: (a) Two years teaching experience. OR (b) A TEFL certificate (can be a TESOL/CELTA or DELTA cert.) Some schools may REQUIRE both parts of (2) as part of their internal hiring policies. Most schools will PREFER (2)(b) as part of their internal policy even if you have (1) and (2)(a). Thus, the language you often see in job ads like: "Bachelor degree and two years teaching experience. TEFL certificate preferred." All schools are required (in order for them to get the FEC (1) and EITHER (2)(a) or 2(b). In short, a TEFL (or similar) cert. can substitute for the 2 years experience, but not for the bachelor degree requirement. SAFEA (which operates the FEC scheme) itself conveniently offers a 7 Day TEFL-type training, the certificate from which can be used in lieu of the 2 years experience requirement, but you still need a bachelor degree underlying everything. |
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2012, 11:05:52 PM » |
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Old34 is absolutely right, as he so often is...
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2012, 12:04:00 AM » |
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I stand corrected.  Sorry... I thought (2) was (a) and (B), not (a) or (b). |
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