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« Reply #75 on: June 07, 2012, 03:26:33 PM »

I'm calling the grammar police on Kitano.
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« Reply #76 on: June 07, 2012, 03:42:12 PM »

haha. That was like a comment from a newspaper website Cheesy
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« Reply #77 on: June 07, 2012, 04:50:46 PM »

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« Reply #78 on: June 08, 2012, 01:16:40 AM »

haha. That was like a comment from a newspaper website Cheesy

I'm calling the copyright police on Kitano. th_ah
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« Reply #79 on: June 09, 2012, 04:14:54 PM »

(LD - can you modify the topic to cover China ... so that we do not get a whole lot of threads on the same problem?   th_m   th_x )

China's crashing the party as police put expats in their sights
June 10, 2012


Foreigners are worried about growing hostility, writes a Special Correspondent in Shanghai.
IT WAS a Thursday, 11pm, and the parties were getting started at the nightspots popular with expatriates on Yongfu Road, in Shanghai's trendy former French Concession. Then, at upmarket bar The Apartment, the police arrived, about 50 of them. The party stalled. They blocked the exits to the four-storey colonial era building, cut the music and ordered the lights be switched on.
The raid was part of a 100-day crackdown, purportedly on foreigner visa violations, launched weeks earlier in Beijing that has left a bitter taste among many young foreigners here, and raised questions about possible political motives behind it.
A Dutch resident who witnessed the raid on The Apartment said police demanded passports from all patrons and recorded passport and visa numbers.

Those without passports or copies of identity documents or who had invalid visas were detained.
The Dutch patron, an employee of a multinational company in Shanghai who asked not to be named, says he avoided detention with a discreet bribe, the equivalent of about $47.
Others were not so lucky. "I saw at least 12 foreigners in the back of a police van,'' he said. "The door was closed and the van drove away."
Neighbouring nightclubs were also raided that night two weeks ago, but within an hour The Apartment was open again. This weekend it is advertising four nights of parties to celebrate its second anniversary.
Bar owners interviewed by The Sunday Age were reluctant to be identified, not wanting to draw attention to themselves. But one said the incident was unprecedented in his more than a decade in Shanghai's entertainment industry. Business was down on subsequent nights.
Some linked the raid to a viral video of a British man apparently committing a sexual assault on a Chinese woman in Beijing. Within 24 hours of being posted last month, the video had been viewed more than 3 million times on China's equivalent of Twitter, Sina Weibo. It attracted more than 50,000 comments, many of them distinctly anti-foreigner.
After initial bewilderment, the raid drew online anger from Shanghai expatriates.
"Suddenly the government launches a crackdown on all laowai [foreigners] like we are some sort of plague," said one online post by an expatriate in Shanghai.
The crackdown, which was announced in China's state-controlled media on May 15, officially targets foreigners living or working in China illegally.
Expat unease worsened after a xenophobic online rant by Yang Rui, a prominent TV host on CCTV 9.
Rui lauded the campaign to protect "innocent girls" from "foreign trash", "thugs" and "spies", and described recently expelled al-Jazeera English correspondent Melissa Chan as a "foreign bitch".
Rui received no official reprimand for the post, which was also published on CCTV's website.
The crackdown started in Beijing, prompting a bitter reaction from some foreigners who have lived in the city for years and see it as home.
American media worker Jacob Trent told CNN he was pulled off his bike by police who demanded his papers.
''I have been living here for a decade and yet I still get treated like - and sometimes called - a foreign barbarian,'' Trent said.
British expat David Park told CNN: ''I have noticed a change in how I am treated. It has gone from curiosity to hostility.''
The Shanghai raids were played down in the local media.
The Global Times reported a police denial of any raid and quoted a manager from The Apartment stating the club was merely visited by four officers who asked them to keep the noise down.
But The Sunday Age has established that exclusive Shanghai nightclub and restaurant M1NT, whose founder and CEO Alistair Paton is Australian, was raided two weeks before The Apartment raid. Four foreign staff and four patrons were found without documents, detained and later released once valid papers were provided.
The crackdown is taking place against a backdrop of political uncertainty.
The scandal involving the downfall of Chongqing Communist Party chief Bo Xilai, a slowing economy, rampant corruption, domestic food safety concerns and the widening gulf between rich and poor is causing unease within party ranks and the general populace.
There is a feeling among some foreigners that the visa campaign serves not only to whip up nationalist fervour, but to distract from more pressing problems.
Unlike some other Asian nations, foreign residents in China mostly apply for yearly visa extensions. Many expatriates in Shanghai consider it their home, but live under a cloud of uncertainty.
For this reason, there is reluctance among foreigners to openly discuss sensitive issues. The Australian owner of a successful Shanghai company said: "We run a legitimate business and follow the system, but things can change in an instant here."

http://www.smh.com.au/world/chinas-crashing-the-party-as-police-put-expats-in-their-sights-20120609-202tb.html
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« Reply #80 on: June 10, 2012, 08:19:10 AM »

Good idea xwarr, I edited the title to be more general since it seems this crackdown is not limited to Beijing any longer.
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« Reply #81 on: June 11, 2012, 11:12:34 AM »

damn I'm so frickin' sick of misbehaving laowai  th_bi
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« Reply #82 on: June 11, 2012, 11:48:42 AM »

Supposedly, the leader of this evil gang of houligans was easily captured since he just ran around the block after escaping.

Could that have been his version of a Chinese Fire Drill? th_ah th_ah th_ah
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« Reply #83 on: June 11, 2012, 04:05:45 PM »

every time i click on this thread i get all angry and start hating china. i should stop clicking.
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« Reply #84 on: June 12, 2012, 01:54:14 AM »

every time i click on this thread i get all angry and start hating china. i should stop clicking.

Nah.  Keep clicking and sooner or later that idiot host from CCTV will start posting about what a bad influence you are.
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« Reply #85 on: June 12, 2012, 02:49:48 AM »

Just some updates on how this is progressing:


Police probe foreigner fight
POLICE say they are investigating an incident in which three foreign juveniles are said to have attacked local residents at a Metro station on June 8.

The incident happened at Metro Line 2's Beixinjing Station where the three juveniles were first seen hitting a man on a stairway at an entrance to the subway. A witness, surnamed Zhang, said he, together with a colleague, came forward trying to stop them but they were also hit by the foreigners. Zhang said he and his colleague were injured in the incident. The foreigners were later taken away by police who said that they were all under the age of 18.


Local beaten and possibly blinded by 3 foreigners in Shanghai
Someone, supposedly a foreigner, randomly hit (brushed up against on accident?) a Chinese guy (unknown as to who it was), and he turned around to ask who hit him. When he asked who hit him, a foreigner said, "FUCK YOU" in English so the Chinese guy attacked the foreigners. Three foreigners — apparently a Swiss, Brit, and American who were all underage — beat him to the ground, breaking his glasses, slashing his eyelids and damaging at least one of his pupils.
 
For the most part, the Chinese people were standing around watching it happen. However, a few other Chinese people tried to join in and fight the three foreigners, but may have been defeated... grown men being defeated by kids. (I can't understand some of this, sorry)
 
At the end of the article, the man is complaining that his country shouldn't allow foreigners to bully China like in the late Qing Dynasty period. Color me insensitive, but if he went up and attacked those foreigners on his own accord and got the shit knocked out of him, how the hell was he being bullied?
 
And then there's something about the police taking them all off to jail... parents getting involved, etc... but I'm having trouble making it out. Can someone give a better translation? What exactly happened here?

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« Reply #86 on: June 12, 2012, 08:36:40 AM »

I just got this notice from the US Embassy

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 In the early morning hours of Saturday, June 9, a group of local
nationals assaulted an employee of the U.S. Embassy in Beijing inside
the Element nightclub, located on the west side of Workers' Stadium near
Sanlitun.  The employee, who was out with some colleagues, was hit in
the head with a sharp object as he was dancing away from the group.
According to witnesses, the employee fell to the floor and was
repeatedly beaten and kicked in the head by individuals serving as
bouncers for the nightclub.  By all accounts, the attack was unprovoked.



This is not the first report of violence directed at U.S. citizens in
the nightclubs outside of Workers' Stadium.  In September 2010, another
employee of the U.S. Embassy in Beijing was assaulted inside a different
nightclub at the north end of Workers' Stadium in another unprovoked
incident.  Private U.S. citizens have also reported being victims of
crime in the nearby area.



U.S. citizens are reminded to use caution when enjoying the nightlife in
Beijing.  Maintaining an awareness of your surroundings and keeping a
low profile are critical to avoiding potential problems.



The U.S. Embassy can be reached 24 hours per day.  During business
hours, call 86-10-8531-4000 or email amcitbeijing@state.gov
<mailto:amcitbeijing@state.gov> .  For emergencies after hours or on
weekends, call 86-10-8531-3000.  The Embassy is located near the Line 10
LiangMaQiao subway stop at 55 An Jia Lou Road, Chaoyang District.  The
Embassy's website is http://beijing.usembassy-china.org.cn
<http://chengdu.usembassy-china.org.cn/beijing.usembassy-china.org.cn> .

If you are residing or traveling in China, we recommend that you enroll
with the U.S. Embassy's Smart Traveler Enrollment Program at:
https://travelregistration.state.gov
<https://travelregistration.state.gov> .  You should also regularly
monitor the Department's Bureau of Consular Affairs Internet website at
http://travel.state.gov <http://travel.state.gov/>  while living or
traveling abroad.
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« Reply #87 on: June 12, 2012, 09:16:08 AM »

Wait, didn't the Chinese guy start it? And how can they deport a bunch of minors without their parents? And if they're underage, they shouldn't be doing time in any jail in the first place. Even China doesn't send minors to adult prison. It really sucks that the Chinese guy got badly hurt but that's what happens when you throw punches -- you're likely to get punched back!

I'm so sick of all this foreigners picking on poor China BS. In the past month or two I've witnessed 2 fistfights on the public bus and on on the subway. On one bus I had my 4 year old with me and the fighters just about knocked him over. The bus driver didn't even stop the damn bus until I screamed at him. No one called the cops, no one was jailed. People beat the shit out of each other ALL the time over absolutely nothing in this country and no one gives a damn but a couple of foreign teenagers beat a guy up and suddenly it is all outrage, outrage I tell you! So much bullshit.

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« Reply #88 on: June 12, 2012, 09:37:01 AM »

Does the US Embassy believe that it's specifically US citizens that are being targeted? If so why?
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« Reply #89 on: June 12, 2012, 09:54:57 AM »

Stil I don't think they believe anyone is specifically targetting US Citizens, it is just that only US Citizens (who are registered) get their updates. They could say "attacks against foreigners" but their audience isn't really all foreigners, it is Americans, and they only have firsthand information about attacks against Americans. All of their messages start off with "Message for US Citizens" anyhow and they tend to use that phrasing a lot in their messages. I got one about the freaky air pollution in Wuhan too, even though obviously that affects everyone, not just Americans. It went on to say "U.S. citizens are reminded that air pollution is a significant problem in many cities and regions in China ... U.S. citizens living in or traveling to China may wish to consult their doctor when living in or prior to traveling to areas with significant air pollution."

I don't think they mean to imply only Americans are targetted (or affected by pollution for that matter), but rather it is only their job to care about what is happening with US Citizens, other citizens are irrelevant for their purposes.
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