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« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2011, 04:29:31 AM »
This thread is a hell of a bump.

There is absolutely no other life of any kind in this universe. I also don't believe there are other parallel universes. I'm filled with dread at the prospect that we are not alone.

I love my Star Treks and Star Wars stories. I've read Ray Bradbury et al since I was a kid, to me its fascinating. But the reality is, we are unique
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« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2011, 06:56:09 AM »
Quote from: Day Dreamer on March 06, 2011, 04:29:31 AM
This thread is a hell of a bump.

There is absolutely no other life of any kind in this universe. I also don't believe there are other parallel universes. I'm filled with dread at the prospect that we are not alone.

I love my Star Treks and Star Wars stories. I've read Ray Bradbury et al since I was a kid, to me its fascinating. But the reality is, we are unique
If u don't believe there are other parallel universes, it's up to u,Day Dreamer!It proves u don't have broad consience.
But I think the life can turn to be boring and empty if someone  believes only in practical world stating that we are alone in this universe. weird....
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« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2011, 07:33:47 AM »
This world is NOT my home...  th_ao
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« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2011, 08:14:39 AM »
Quote from: Crippler on March 06, 2011, 07:33:47 AM
This world is NOT my home...  th_ao
hehe one of my friends has the same opinion. he is always dreaming of living on other planet... th_bi
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« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2011, 08:34:20 AM »
Quote from: Day Dreamer on March 06, 2011, 04:29:31 AM
There is absolutely no other life of any kind in this universe. I also don't believe there are other parallel universes. I'm filled with dread at the prospect that we are not alone.

One of the laws of nature we find on this planet is that anywhere life CAN exist it DOES exist. There are worms that live in ice and other organisms living in boiling water near where lava flows in the oceans.

Unless this planet exists in a vacuum those laws apply to the rest of the universe. Anywhere and everywhere life can exist, it does, in which case there is most definitely an infinite cornucopia of life out there, and why not intelligent life as well? To say otherwise is like being a grain of sand on the beach with a spot of fungus on it proudly declaring that no other grain has been blessed with life on it.

The grandiosity of the universe is only so threatening if one considers oneself a unique organism separate from it all.
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« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2011, 11:47:50 AM »
I'm sure there's thousands, who knows? maybe millions of alien races out there more technologically advanced than us. There are about 200 billion stars in the Universe. Quite a few of these probably have planets orbiting around them, some with life on them.

But let's assume for a moment that every single one of them constitutes a solar system that includes intelligent life, and we decide to head for the nearest one (Proxima Centuri - a frankly claustrophobic mere 4.2 light years away), once we've designed a spaceship that can go 38,185 mph (the speed of Voyager 1 since I had no intention of doing the maths myself). All we need to do now is find something to occupy our time for the 73,600 years it would take to get there, and hope that they have the kettle on.
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« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2011, 11:53:45 AM »
UFOs are like ghosts - I have personally never seen nor encountered one.  However, people that I respect and trust to be honest say that they have.  So my answer would have to be that I believe is the possibility of them wtf
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« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2011, 02:00:33 PM »
Quote from: cobra on March 06, 2011, 06:56:09 AM
If u don't believe there are other parallel universes, it's up to u,Day Dreamer!It proves u don't have broad consience.

What an ignorant thing to say, my imagination is extensive. Just because I disagree doesn't make me a moron. I understand the implications, I don't concur

Quote from: Ben-Dan on March 06, 2011, 08:34:20 AM
Unless this planet exists in a vacuum those laws apply to the rest of the universe. Anywhere and everywhere life can exist, it does, in which case there is most definitely an infinite cornucopia of life out there, and why not intelligent life as well? To say otherwise is like being a grain of sand on the beach with a spot of fungus on it proudly declaring that no other grain has been blessed with life on it.

Ahhh, the old "Pigs can fly" theory. If life doesn't exist out there, then "pigs can fly"

I was talking to the Moon the other day and it said that since it can't see any other natural satellite orbitting the Earth, it must be the only one. I said you can't see what's on the exact opposite side, there may be one, two, maybe thousands. (if they are all perfectly linear)

Someone please explain to me how a spot of fungus constitute life on another planet, just asking.
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« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2011, 02:01:36 PM »
Quote from: Just Like Mr Benn on March 06, 2011, 11:47:50 AM
But let's assume for a moment that every single one of them constitutes a solar system that includes intelligent life, and we decide to head for the nearest one (Proxima Centuri - a frankly claustrophobic mere 4.2 light years away), once we've designed a spaceship that can go 38,185 mph (the speed of Voyager 1 since I had no intention of doing the maths myself). All we need to do now is find something to occupy our time for the 73,600 years it would take to get there, and hope that they have the kettle on.

I read somewhere that to travel to the next possible habitable planet in the nearest galaxy would take, traveling fully at the speed of light, more than a life time. So, astronauts would have to leave, have children, die, and then the children would be the ones to arrive on the new planet having never stepped out of a space ship. [Might make a good movie if they could really get into the psychology/sociology of it. I imagine the astronauts would be rather agoraphobic…).

In addition to needing to travel at the speed of light, the ship would need enough fuel and food to travel for more than 100 years without a pit stop.

If you've seen the movie "Silent Running" you might think about them raising food using solar energy. That would only work while they were near a star. Once you get past, let's say, Pluto, you can forget it. Not enough light and it's too cold.

So, there are several seemingly impossible hurdles to interplanetary space travel between habitable planets. Most of the UFOs so far turned out to be things like hubcaps.

We've sent out messages though, so maybe one day we'll get one.
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« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2011, 02:15:44 PM »
I do belive in Unidentified Flying Objects, meaning there are things we have yet to interpret. This does not conclude that they are aliens.

You see that small green ball, it must be an elephant.
No, its not an elephant
Then what is it
I don't know
You don't know, then it must be an elephant

I won't presuppose why an (assumed) alien does not make contact just because we may or might. The fact that they don't also doesn't mean they don't exist. I firmly think they are not there regardless of any so-called real, imagined or contrary proof.

If one day Spock comes down to visit, I'll be first to greet them no matter their intention, cruel or benevolent
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« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2011, 02:44:23 PM »
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Someone please explain to me how a spot of fungus constitute life on another planet, just asking.

My writing is at fault here. I should have made the analogy more clear. The argument is that there is life on Earth, and that everywhere on Earth that life CAN exist it DOES exist, even in extremely unlikely places. This is seen by some biologists as a natural law. Given that there are countless other planets out there, and thus the likelihood that at least a small percentage of them could sustain some form of life, it follows that life exists there.

The grain of sand on a beach is an analogy for our planet in an infinity of others. What is the likelihood of there being fungus on only one grain of sand on a beach, even if all the other grains around it have no fungus on them? More directly, what is the likelihood of trillions upon trillions of lifeless planets in the universe and only one with life on it, and that one teaming with life?

Wouldn't it be a sad waste of a universe to sequester all life on just one planet in one solar system?

Anyay, that's what I was trying to say.
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« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2011, 09:38:25 PM »
I think that I have said a few words on this topic somewhere else in the Saloon. I wonder if there is anyone else reading this topic, who has seen or experienced something which they are unable to explain?
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« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2011, 01:25:54 AM »
Quote from: Granny Mae on March 06, 2011, 09:38:25 PM
I think that I have said a few words on this topic somewhere else in the Saloon. I wonder if there is anyone else reading this topic, who has seen or experienced something which they are unable to explain?

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Quote from: Crippler on March 06, 2011, 07:33:47 AM
This world is NOT my home...  th_ao
hehe one of my friends has the same opinion. he is always dreaming of living on other planet... th_bi

NASA wouldn't take me for the Mars program, so I went on my own mission to Planet China. th_bj
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« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2011, 02:19:08 AM »
Quote from: Granny Mae on March 06, 2011, 09:38:25 PM
I think that I have said a few words on this topic somewhere else in the Saloon. I wonder if there is anyone else reading this topic, who has seen or experienced something which they are unable to explain?
When i was about 12 years old, Istayed in my room alone and suddenly my room was full of green light.I came up to the window and saw 5 balls in the air just in front of my window. I didn't understand what it was. but it wasn't illusion for sure. I quickly took the camera and wanted to take some pictures, but to my surprise they dissepeared. As soon as i put my camera, the balls appeared again.It looked like smbd played with me))) th_m after 5 seconds the balls dissappeared and i didn't see them any more.
Till now I don't undersatnd what i saw... perhaps ufo)))

Several months ago i saw a tv programe and it said that aliens already live among us.
UFO sent some biological robots who look like people,but they are robots themselves. They live in different countries and have a mission on the earth.
who knows maybe u saw one and think he is one of us th_ah th_ah th_ah
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« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2011, 09:18:59 PM »
Quote from: cobra on March 07, 2011, 02:19:08 AM
Several months ago i saw a tv programe and it said that aliens already live among us.
UFO sent some biological robots who look like people,but they are robots themselves. They live in different countries and have a mission on the earth.
who knows maybe u saw one and think he is one of us th_ah th_ah th_ah

Thanks for your reply Cobra. th_bf

EL, I can appreciate your response in view of the way I worded my question. th_ah

I appreciate that this is a topic which brings out different emotions. I do understand that it is difficult to believe in something one has not experienced. I also know that it is often difficult to talk about one's experiences because of the fear of being ridiculed or laughed at. In all seriousness though, does anyone else have anything to share in relation to their experience/s with UFOs or such like?
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