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Author Topic: Freedom's just a word - in the USA  (Read 1490 times)

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Re: Freedom's just a word - in the USA
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2012, 03:08:19 PM »
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This isn't a censorship/FOI/FOE issue. You are free to obtain the data or information, such as teaching materials, through other methods and media.

I do not find that advice very helpful!

If, after a long search, I find the material I want can be downloaded from a link given to a storage site then I would like to think I will be able to get it.

You are suggesting that if the storage site has been blocked, or taken down by a government agency, then all I have to do is download from another site. I think that there is a gap in the logic there, in that if the material has been stored in only one location then it is not available anywhere else.

Accessing resources in Ch is never easy - it has just been made harder by the self-appointed standard bearer of the 'free' world.

I was thinking more in terms of actually buying books. As you say, it's not possible to get hold of the full range of high quality materials that you can elsewhere in the world. China is to blame for this, nobody else. If they don't care about their education then they'll produce the society they deserve.

Every time I head back to the free world I source the latest useful offerings from the relevant publishers. If you can't do that, get your family/friends to send you a pack of stuff from back home.
We done now.

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Re: Freedom's just a word - in the USA
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2012, 07:04:05 AM »
They need a new business model. When people are downloading music and movies and software for free, what are they still paying for? Media companies could perhaps be paying their artists as content providers and asking the consumer to pay x per month for internet access and letting everything you find be free.

'course, they'd have to make the internet properly functional as a content delivery system, which it isn't at the moment. At the moment people can hunt up what they like and have some sense of ownership because they put in the effort to find, or crack, or steal it. And downloading, even with good internet deals, takes time. It feels like you worked for your theft so it's yours.

Then again, it's all moot until some version of server/client or maybe cloud tech is, if ever, an adequate replacement for saving your own copy to your own hard disk. Streaming is, and perhaps always will be (?), a pain in the posterior. City-wide wifi?


Can't remember the last time I paid for content. Years ago. But I pay for my phone every few months and for my internet once a year, like clockwork.
Apparently spending on these industries has actually stayed pretty consistent. Take music as an example - in that industry the trend is that people buy less and less music overall and download more for free. But this drop in spending has been taking place alongside an increase in spending on concerts and merchandise. It's just the content industry that is suffering, and no surprise really - it's consistently proven itself incapable of adapting to today's marketplace and should either reinvent itself, and quickly, or be allowed to die.

I stole this information from a Wired article that was a part of the blackout thing, I think it's this one http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/01/sopa-piracy-costs/

kevcom1

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Re: Freedom's just a word - in the USA
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2012, 10:14:42 AM »
The problem is that the muscician is the one who benefits from the concerts as opposed to the music companies. A cd however costs pennies to make and yet they charge as much as they can making large amounts in the process.
"As one executive suggested, that meant that (at least in a market dominated by a few huge distributors) releasing fewer titles could yield higher profits—and, indeed, the number of titles released in the following two years dropped back to mid-decade levels."
It is obvious that thepeople suffering most from piracy are the ones who benefit most from doing the least.
It really is a sad state of affairs when you see the government bowing down to big biz.

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Re: Freedom's just a word - in the USA
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2012, 04:09:50 AM »
ACTA explained. A useful insight. for those with youtube access.
check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEuzCiQxNbs&feature=player_embedded

always a controversial subject. As i recently read, there is more than one side to a coin.

Did you think that SOPA and PIPA were the end? No. They were just a distraction while this got approval behind our backs. Can you believe that ACTA has been proposed 2 YEARS ago?

SOPA and PIPA were just shelved, they were not destroyed. They were going to be taken out again in the future.

We shelved SOPA and PIPA, we can shelve this as well. Spread the word that ACTA exists!
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