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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2007, 04:16:48 PM »

And to get to the US, $140NZ ($110US) for Kiwis who need to get a tourist visa to the US

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume Kiwis can get landing visas just like Canadians, Ozzies, and Citizens of the United Kingdom. Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're referencing a 6 MONTH tourist visa fee.
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2007, 04:35:30 PM »

And to get to the US, $140NZ ($110US) for Kiwis who need to get a tourist visa to the US

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume Kiwis can get landing visas just like Canadians, Ozzies, and Citizens of the United Kingdom. Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're referencing a 6 MONTH tourist visa fee.

Nope, this is for the 'normal' visa - as Non-Dave pointed out, not all people are entitled to the reciprocal visa scheme and if you've been refused once, then you have to reapply each time. th_as
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2007, 04:43:23 PM »



Nope, this is for the 'normal' visa - as Non-Dave pointed out, not all people are entitled to the reciprocal visa scheme and if you've been refused once, then you have to reapply each time. th_as

Oh, so in your case you needed one just to enter for any kind of tourism? i. e. an individual basis?

I know that Americans can spend up to 3 months in NZ with a landing visa.
According the the U. S. government, it is reciprocal:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2007, 05:15:39 PM »

Well, just remember there is no more landing visa in China. I think before North American citizens could get it. But it's been canceled. Russian citizens as I mentioned before can still get it at the border. But it is the best to have an invitation for a business visa. They don't give tourist visa at the border.

As for my people to go to so-called developed countries... i won't even get started on that. Never been easy. And we never made it easy for anyone.
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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2007, 02:49:52 AM »

Well, just remember there is no more landing visa in China.

I don't think there ever was one for Americans. I know from first-hand experience there hasn't been one in my adult life.
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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2007, 05:47:25 AM »


The cost for a Chinese VISA is the same (got this from the local PSB) as what a Chinese person would pay to obtain a VISA from that country.     


Admittedly, from all accounts I've heard from Chinese friends: the hassles are much less for Americans getting any Chinese visa, while many Chinese can't go without jumping through hoops just to be able to reach the point where it's simply about paying for any  American visa. I also personally observed the headaches Chinese face getting any kind of South Korean visa in Shanghai. It was depressing, but I was told it was a piece of cake compared to getting an American one.

My experiences with Chinese visas (tourist so far) were simply some polite exchange, turning over a passport and some photos and cash, and then returning to get the passport with a visa. The only headaches involved getting to the embasy, the dent on the wallet and the massive passport space a visa occupies.
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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2007, 05:50:40 AM »

and the massive passport space a visa occupies.


What else were you planning on doing with that page??
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« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2007, 06:22:15 AM »



What else were you planning on doing with that page??

I was saving it for hello kitty stickers. th_a
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« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2007, 06:42:50 AM »

Hmmmm I have a wonderful story about the crap I went through to get my visa to get into China, which they initially gave me heaps about because they claimed I didn't have the right paper work.  Alot of smiling and being egged on a courier (at the time I felt like a vantreligists dummy) the consulate officer relented and gave me my beloved pink slip. th_ah

The initial z visa to get into the country (valid for 30 days only)until I got my residents permit was AUD$30.

My boss paid for the rest.
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« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2007, 11:08:32 AM »

Chinese policy is to charge foreign nationals what that country charges a Chinese for a visa.
Sounds fair.
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« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2007, 03:28:16 PM »

I'll second what's already been said - America has done a good job of screwing the 3rd world for quite some time now; it should come as no surprise that the third world is eager to screw back.

I have a Jamaican friend here that can easily get a 6 month visa for cheap in HK. No questions, no problems. The policy the last couple months for Americans, supposedly, has been only 1 month'ers. On the other hand, I traveled through a dozen countries in Europe in spring 2005; she traveled similarly a year or two ago and needed to apply for a visa for a majority of those countries.

Visas will always be a huge pain in the ass and always be heavily tied into current politics.
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« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2007, 04:05:32 PM »


Sorry for USAnians regarding this latest hike in cost of visas for them but at the same time, blame the government. USAnia was 1 of the first countries to set the 100$ visa rule even for transit visas... i.e, if someone who normally requires a visa to enter the country is gonna fly through without ever leaving the airport, they still need to pay 100$ and go to an interview at the freaking consulate/embassy... just for a transit!!!  th_ao th_as th_as th_as th_as

Getting a Chinese visa is a piece of cake compared to that...

BTW, most visas I've gotten on my passport, may it be shengen, USAnia, China all occupy the same amount of space: 1 whole page
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« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2007, 04:25:00 PM »


 if someone who normally requires a visa to enter the country is gonna fly through without ever leaving the airport, they still need to pay 100$ and go to an interview at the freaking consulate/embassy... just for a transit!!! 

That's f'd up.

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Getting a Chinese visa is a piece of cake compared to that...

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BTW, most visas I've gotten on my passport, may it be shengen, USAnia, China all occupy the same amount of space: 1 whole page

It's not that big of a deal. Don't read to much into my comment about the "dent." I'm not familiar with other passports, but I find that the American one comes with too few pages. Sure, its' simple (in theory) to get extra pages dded, but if you're abroad it's not always so easy to get the extra pages in terms of time (and lines).
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« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2007, 03:34:25 AM »

I'll be at the Guangxi, Nanning PSB tomorra to get another 30 day L visa... Another page burned out of me passport... `Hoping the new prices won't be in effect yet....

It IS purdy easy fo to git new pages in a U.S. passport if you're not far from the U.S. consulate/ emabassy.. whatever offices it is that gives them...

last year I got new ones added in Guangzhou, it took more time to get in & out of the building & getting searched than it did to get the new pages put in.

`life goes on & we git ta do what we get to do  th_l
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