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Riz

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Re: Birmy International
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2010, 09:01:27 AM »
The Truth is out!
"I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals."
Short and funny quotes, Winston Churchill.

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Re: Birmy International
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2010, 10:08:05 AM »
The Truth is out!

Thanks Stil :) Yes, the truth is finally out. Our class action is gathering momentum and we're going to nail these miscreants to the wall soon, I promise you.

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Re: Birmy International
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2010, 10:25:40 PM »
Good news everyone! Our class action against these loathsome trolls is gaining momentum; several others (both foreigners & Chinese) have joined forces with us. Will keep you updated with further news and thanks again for all your support!

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Re: Birmy International
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2010, 11:56:18 PM »
 bfbfbfbfbf bfbfbfbfbf agagagagag
Moderation....in most things...

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Re: Birmy International
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2010, 07:08:43 AM »
bfbfbfbfbf bfbfbfbfbf agagagagag

Hi AMonk and thanks again for all your support. Oh, what does 'th_bf th_bf th_ag' mean?

old34

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Re: Birmy International
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2010, 08:15:30 AM »
It means your browser can't display the "thumbs-up" icons A Monk gave you.
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. - B. O'Driscoll.
TIC is knowing that, in China, your fruit salad WILL come with cherry tomatoes AND all slathered in mayo. - old34.

The Local Dialect

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Re: Birmy International
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2010, 08:58:52 AM »
I hope it works out The Truth. It is pretty rare that the bad schools really get what they deserve, so it is good to hear that you're making progress.

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Re: Birmy International
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2010, 09:27:59 AM »
That's 2 "Thumbs Up" and a "Cheers" [having a celebratory drink] 
Moderation....in most things...

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Re: Birmy International
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2010, 09:50:27 PM »
It means your browser can't display the "thumbs-up" icons A Monk gave you.

Thanks so much for all your support guys, from all of us! ;)

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Re: Birmy International
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2010, 05:26:52 PM »
A quick and important update. We have been flooded with support the past few days, as word of the evil machinations of these mindless charlatans going by the name of Birmy International English has spread like wildfire across the web.

We received a huge and very welcome boost this morning; several students & staff (both former & current) of this festering snake-pit they call Birmy International English, have decided to join forces with us in our class action. Many of them will also be taking on these troglodytes personally, as they have been royally cheated out of their hard-earned money here.

Through this, some extremely disturbing additional information has come to light. This includes Birmy's intimidation of staff (especially reception, which now completes the picture as to why we would often find them in tears at work) and their spy system (just like the cold war era, where one of the Chinese tutors spies daily on foreign teachers' comings and goings, both in & out of the school, reporting back to head office in Jiaojiang).

This has given us added impetus (not that we needed it) to nail these deplorable neanderthals (our deepest apologies to early man here) called Birmy International English.

To any newbie foreign teachers reading this. Never, ever, let your Chinese (or other) employer intimidate you. If you're having any trouble with them at all, come to this forum and someone will be able to help you, I'm sure.

One thing unscrupulous Chinese so-called English schools hate worse than anything is having their evil misdeeds exposed. Forget all you've heard about this 'saving face' nonsense. It's two-faced all the way for these clowns.

There is justice in the TEFL world after-all. We'll keep you posted!

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Re: Birmy International
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2015, 09:25:55 AM »
Newcomer JW

Most of us (practically all of us) use aliases. If you're going to be working at Birmy, that may become useful.

Your topic was locked, maybe to move it to another section of the saloon, but to be honest, I think it's quite important to google employers in China before you accept a job. There are some very bad employers. Birmy has a lot of bad reviews, on many sites, albeit from 5 years ago and possibly from just one disgruntled teacher.

However, I think you should at least have a look at this thread and maybe http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=60414

Stil who's still very much with us will no doubt have something to say.

Here are the things that people have raised that you should get clarification on before accepting the job, (or since it seems you have accepted the job taking things any further).

-Make sure you have your own room from night 1.
-Make sure they agree in the contract to pay for the medical in China. (it's not hugely expensive, but it's a principle).
-(Most importantly) Make sure that you're entering the country on a Z visa. if they try to get you to enter on a tourist visa and change it to a Z visa, flat out refuse.

If only a fraction of what is alleged here is still true, this school should be red-flagged.

I can't stress enough though that 5 years is a long time. They may very well have changed for the better.

A look at the contract may be helpful. There's a section on the forum for that.

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Re: Birmy International
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2015, 01:56:08 PM »
Birmy in Changsha has expanded. It has at least three branches now. I know several foreigners that work there part time and while there's nothing particular good to say about them, there's nothing particularly bad either. A run of the mill...mill. There's certainly nothing to the extent that 'The Truth' was talking about in Taizhou.

Just the usual mill stuff about only caring for profits etc., etc.. Everyone gets paid on time and there's no intimidation as was mentioned 5 years ago. In Changsha, I would consider it like working at Web or pretty much any other large chain. Everyone rates the branches separately though one of them is definitely less liked than the other two, so that's not a head office situation.

However, I don't know anyone working there full time, and working full time at a mill is completely different than part time.

I should mention that, I recently often take complaints by young foreigners with a grain of salt. Some of the millennials have a difficult time adjusting from the strong politically correct environment they are used to and tend to whine a lot. I kind of put them on mute, so they may have had complaints about Birmy that I paid little attention to.

Hmmm, maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that.