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Author Topic: The devil is loose in the United States!  (Read 3908 times)

mlaeux

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Re: The devil is loose in the United States!
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2009, 08:20:05 PM »
True that. IMHO the mainstream and now the alternative media is all about fear mongering. Every time you turn on the news here it has a sensationalist slant. Alex Jones and his ilk aren't much better, they are just operating outside of the mainstream and their following is a little more fanatical. I follow both, but I find the alternative media outlets more entertaining.

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Re: The devil is loose in the United States!
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2009, 08:25:10 PM »
Jolly old England.

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Re: The devil is loose in the United States!
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2009, 08:26:27 PM »
What media outlets do you listen to?

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Re: The devil is loose in the United States!
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2009, 09:48:54 PM »
The problem is that mixed in with the insane babblings on that website at the beginning of this thread, there is one very legitimate complaint.  The US Supreme Court made the biggest screw up in decades when they allowed government at every level to mis-use the power of eminent domain for economic purposes instead of restricting it to specific governmental needs.

This means that your city or county commission can force you to sell your property at what they determine to be fair market value, and turn it over to a developer.  In once case, this resulted in a locally owned tire store being forced to sell.  He wasn't even given the option of leasing his prior location back to keep his business going.  In it's place, they put a Sears Tire and Auto service center.  Sure, they owner was paid for his land and building, but his business was destroyed for no legitimate reason.

That little incident in 1776 began over far lesser provocations.
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Re: The devil is loose in the United States!
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2009, 12:33:18 AM »
^ my parents were forced by the city of Grantsburg, WI to give up several acres of land for a road that pretty much goes nowhere. They used the newer eminent domain laws to snatch it away.

Private property will be a thing of the past probably within our children's lifetime.
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Re: The devil is loose in the United States!
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2009, 03:28:19 AM »
OK, this is now officially getting weird(er).
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Re: The devil is loose in the United States!
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2009, 04:05:33 AM »
I'm a Coast to Coast AM addict so this is very usual stuff.
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Re: The devil is loose in the United States!
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2009, 05:07:58 AM »
What media outlets do you listen to?

At the moment...

BBC IMHO just OK

PBS NewsHour IMHO better

Jon Stewart  IMHO worth the time

In general, I hold the view that daily news broadcasts are almost worthless, even in newspapers, except when they report specific incidents (The President has been shot! The war is over! Jesus is back, and is he ever pissed!) and setting our clocks running. I think more reflective sources are best. The Sunday Times, both NY and London, often contain articles that someone has spent more than an hour researching. Unfortunately, they often take more than ten minutes to read, thus being ignored by the avarage citizen.

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Re: The devil is loose in the United States!
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2009, 09:37:49 AM »

The problem is that... your city or county commission can force you to sell your property at what they determine to be fair market value, and turn it over to a developer.  


I heard about this.  Very disturbing.  Annexing property to build a road or a hospital when necessary is one thing; sometimes the public interest requires it.  But forcing someone off their land to put up a strip mall is a sinister act.

Bubbabait, is there some parallel to this in the U.K.?
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