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« on: December 25, 2008, 06:02:19 AM »

I have a friend coming to visit me from Australia, and we are planning a short trip to Xi'an, after the Chinese New Year.  We are now contemplating carrying on to Harbin for the Ice Festival.

Is there anyone up in that area, who could advise about the best/cheapest/most efficient way to travel there, from Beijing.  And then maybe some options for accommodation while we are there. 

We would prefer to be somewhere near to where we can see all the ice sculptures, not out in the sticks somewhere.  Another friend went to Harbin last winter, and booked a hotel, online, after reading that they were adjacent to the park where most of the sculptures could be seen, but it was not the case.  So, I am hoping for some local knowledge to help us out.

Also, what else is there that is worth seeing, at that time of year, when it is going to be bitterly cold, I know. 

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2008, 07:10:39 AM »

I'll let one of the currently or formerly frozen locals handle accommodations.

For transit...Both Beijing and Harbin have both airports and train stations. I love the trains myself...admittedly partly out of a fear of being 30,000 feet in the air in a complex mechanical apparatus that is being managed, operated, and maintained by Chinese university graduates. th_ao th_o

Beyond that...it's like any other transport between cities on the same continent.
Trains are much cheaper and funkier than air. They also take longer.
Planes are considerably more expensive and more culturally homogenized. They also get you there in a couple hours.
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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2008, 09:36:50 AM »

I am going to Harbin next week and am looking forward to it. I am more than a little scared of the cold though. We are catching the train from Baotou to Harbin then Harbin to Beijing. I too love the trains as you get to see a lot more. There is a fast train from Beijing to Harbin that takes around 8 hrs, that is not a sleeper train, a sleeper train takes around 12 i believe.

I too would like some tips on accommodation, i have found a couple of hotels but am not sure if there is something better.
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2008, 12:21:32 PM »

I taught at a school, roughly 3 hours north out of Harbin in 2006.

You'll get a unique Chinese-Russian experience.

There is quite a few good hotels around the train station.  From memory, the Festival 'park' is somewhat out of the centre of the city and you should be able to get a cab ride quite easily.  But there are quite a few ice sculpures in the centre of town that are quite impressive.

I believe you can get a train directly from Beijing to Harbin.  Fellow teachers have said it's quite an interesting ride.

Enjoy.

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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2008, 02:18:01 PM »

I've done the train and the plane both ways several times and they both have their appeal. You can sometimes get cheaper flights than train tickets, in which case a 2 hr plane ride is great - but be aware that the Harbin airport is way out of the city and the taxi driver's smile with true joy when they see a shiny, new foreigner shivering in front of the arrivals hall. There is an airport bus that leaves every 20 minutes or so - it's at the far left of the arrivals area as you walk out the doors of the airport - a small ticket office adjacent to where the bus usually parked. 50 RMB ticket. It stops at a number of places - but take it to the end and you've got a 10-20RMB taxi ride to any of the downtown hotels.

I don't know anything about the fast train yet - never tried it.

The overnight trains to/from Beijing are pretty good value. Get on at night, sleep, get off in the morning. Make sure to get the soft sleeper, especially in winter.

The train station is very central in Harbin and there are tons of choices for hotels. If you have a decent budget and want a bit of reasonable luxury try the Kunlun hotel. It's next to the KFC you see to the right as you walk out from the train station into the main square. 350-400RMB/nt (http://www.sinohotel.com/english/hotelinfo/heilongjiang_kunlun_hotel.html)

I've stayed there and enjoyed it, but it's not in the best position - it's convenient for the train station, but not much else. If you don't know Harbin I wouldn't recommend it unless the train station access is really important to you.

There's lots of hotels around Zhongyang DaJie - the main walking street near the river - but they can be a bit pricey and are likely to be pretty heavily booked, so book in advance.

A comfortable, modern place I've stayed a few times is the Wanda Holiday Express - it's new, clean and comfortable, but the taxi driver's will confuse it with the central Holiday Inn hotel, so be prepared to give them good, clear directions and don't pay extra if the shabi's take you to the wrong place.(http://www.elong.net/hotels/details.aspx?m=&hotelid=21001010) 178-188 RMB/nt.

The Ice Festival is on the opposite side of the river - many buses go there, taxis are a good option and your hotel should have lots of info about how to get there. Be prepared - it is quite possibly the coldest place on the face of the earth. Take thick warm boots. Take extra camera batteries. It's an extraordinary spectacle and not to be missed - but go prepared!

There's also lots of ice sculpture around the streets to be seen for free. Zhongyang Dajie is a big walking street with all the standard tourist stuff and shopping centers, but good fun - and at the far end next to Walmart is the river and a square that's usually humming with people and activities. Also, at this time of the year on the ice of the river itself there is a little carnival with games, rides, food, pickpockets, etc.

Another good place to check out is Hongbo underground clothes market in Nangang (very close to the train station). All the taxi drivers know it.

No trip to Harbin should be undertaken without a visit to my mate Ronnie at Hamamas Kofi Haus...

From: Re: Requests for City Info « Reply #10 on: August 13, 2008, 10:22:30 AM »
Hamamas Kofi Haus: Hamamas is run by a Papua New Guinean guy called Ronnie and his Chinese wife. It's a small, casual & very popular coffee shop. Big-assed mugs of brewed coffee 12RMB & half-priced refills. Decent cappuccino, latte and milkshakes. Great hamburgers, sandwiches (on real bread) and subs. The have a smoked chicken and salad sub that's worth a plane ticket to Harbin. There's also a desert-bar to die for. The staff speak good English, it's no smoking inside and there's a great selection of English books to keep you entertained. It's a pretty good place to meet the local laowai contingent and some friendly locals, too. Say Hi! to Ronnie (you'll know him when you see him) and tell him Aussie Dave sent you. He'll smile and tell you you're welcome and charge you extra!

It's located right near Harbin Institute of Technology (HIT HaGongDa 哈工大) and the computer market (jianghua guangchang 教化广场)

The address is 2/104 Mu Gong Jie (木工街2号104室) Phone number: 0451-88581660

Most of the cabs know MuGongJie - call the shop from the cab and get them to tell the driver if you have trouble.

The computer market is also a great place for anything electrical. (jianghua guangchang 教化广场)

Harbin has a great central walking street - Zhongyang dajie (中央大街) in the downtown daoli district. The south end has the Holiday Inn Hotel with a great sports bar and the best western brekky in town (not the cheapest). The north end has the Songhua River and a Walmart. Lots of good shopping in between.

At the river end is Zhong Xia Video & Audio shop (9 Zhongyi St - just near the intersection with Zhongyang dajie) Zhong Xia is the owner, speaks good English and has the best selection of DVD's in town. If she hasn't got it she'll get it. Phone 139 4517 0327 Chinese address: 道里区中医街9号


http://www.elong.net/ - elong is great for plane & hotel bookings.
http://www.travelchinaguide.com/china-trains/index.htm - the Travel China Guide English train schedules.
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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2008, 05:46:14 AM »

Yet again Non-Dave's done a great Harbin travel guide, but I forgot about Ronnie at the Hammas Kofi Haus.  You can't go to Harbin and not go and see Ronni and his wife....great cafe....
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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2008, 05:57:47 AM »


great stuff N-D.. I'm moving this one to the library..

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« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2008, 06:04:37 AM »

Hey, thanks so much for all the help.  And particularly ND for your comprehensive travel guide.  I will be sure to look up Ronnie when we are there, and pass on your greetings.  Hopefully that will not make the prices rise too dramatically!! th_al

I know that it will be VERY cold, but I just hope it will be worth it.

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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2008, 06:07:17 AM »

Hey Bugalugs,  Just re-read all the replies, and realized that I forgot to ask you if you get a chance, could you report to me on what you did, etc., and if you have any tips for us.

Lin
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2008, 07:46:44 AM »

Hi Lin If i get a chance to jump on the net i will let you know. I have an itinerary that i would be happy to share with you.Please let me know if you are interested.
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2008, 03:20:34 PM »

Hey Bugalugs,  that would be so cool.  Thanks, send it to my email address, if you want.

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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2008, 03:11:32 AM »

Oh dear Lin, you better send it to her by PM - otherwise your email will attract so much spam
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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2008, 01:20:44 PM »

Hammas is always a must whilst in town. There is also a great Arabian restaurant and a Russian place or three. We also have craploads of hot pot places and I have one that is definitely my fav. Can't say much on hotels as I live here and don't need one but there are tons near the train station and closer to the river/ Ice Festival area.
Be sure to ask about and check out Zhaolin Park and the ice carvings there. This year due to a sponsorship from Disney the carving there will be of famous movie characters. Don't forget a long stroll along the river and down Walking Street to view the carving there.
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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2008, 01:23:05 PM »

I taught at a school, roughly 3 hours north out of Harbin in 2006.

You'll get a unique Chinese-Russian experience.

There is quite a few good hotels around the train station.  From memory, the Festival 'park' is somewhat out of the centre of the city and you should be able to get a cab ride quite easily.  But there are quite a few ice sculpures in the centre of town that are quite impressive.

Enjoy.


Yup, is across the river a little ways out of the city centre but not too bad. The taxi drivers can be pirates so be careful they don't try to screw you over.
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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2008, 03:32:50 PM »

This year due to a sponsorship from Disney the carving there will be of famous movie characters.

Why did this suddenly put me off??
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