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« Reply #75 on: September 25, 2008, 05:55:33 PM »

Not that this is any surprise:

Amid milk scare, China's elite get special food

By ANITA CHANG, Associated Press Writer Wed Sep 24, 3:52 PM ET

BEIJING - While China grapples with its latest tainted food crisis, the political elite are served the choicest, safest delicacies. They get hormone-free beef from the grasslands of Inner Mongolia, organic tea from the foothills of T and rice watered by melted mountain snow.


And it's all supplied by a special government outfit that provides all-organic goods from farms working under the strictest guidelines.
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« Reply #76 on: September 25, 2008, 10:10:02 PM »

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Despite the announcement of good news, this could still be a struggle for China to regain the trust of its people and those who import its goods
D'ya think?   Roll Eyesth_bi Roll Eyes

Went to Metro yesterday.  Three big signs (one in English) on the way in listing all the tainted products.  The sign assured customers that Metro had removed all tainted products from the shelves and would give refunds for any that had been purchased if one returned with the product and receipt.  I didn't check the baby food aisle, but in the dairy section, the boxes of milk I usually buy were there as usual.  Gambled that the fine folk at that Metro store were telling me the truth and bought two boxes.  We all gotta die sometime.
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« Reply #77 on: September 25, 2008, 11:51:19 PM »

Well, as I said- production date is the same on those company's products. And now they have a sale on them  th_bi
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« Reply #78 on: September 26, 2008, 12:32:42 PM »

And, just in the nick of time, PETA (a group that makes me look completely sane by comparison) has come up with a perfect solution to the crisis.

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Mama's milk ice cream cone, anyone?
By JOHN CURRAN, Associated Press Writer Thu Sep 25, 8:04 PM ET

WATERBURY, Vt. - Mooove over, Holsteins. PETA wants world-famous Ben & Jerry's Homemade Ice Cream to tap nursing moms, rather than cows, for the milk used in its ice cream.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is asking the ice cream maker to begin using breast milk in its products instead of cow's milk, saying it would reduce the suffering of cows and calves and give ice cream lovers a healthier product.

The idea got a cool reception Thursday from Ben & Jerry's officials, the company's customers and even La Leche League International, the world's oldest breast-feeding support organization, which promotes the practice — for babies, anyway.

PETA wrote a letter to company founders Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield on Tuesday, telling them cow's milk is hazardous and that milking them is cruel.

"If Ben and Jerry's replaced the cow's milk in its ice cream with breast milk, your customers — and cows — would reap the benefits," wrote Tracy Reiman, executive vice president of the animal rights advocacy group. She said dairy products have been linked to juvenile diabetes, allergies and obesity.

Ashley Byrne, a campaign coordinator for PETA, acknowledged the implausibility of substituting breast milk for cow's milk, but said it's no stranger than humans consuming the milk of another species.

"We're aware this idea is somewhat absurd, and that putting it into practice is a stretch. At the time same, it's pretty absurd for us to be drinking the milk of cows," she said.

It takes about 12 pounds — or 1 1/2 gallons of milk — to make a gallon of ice cream. Ben & Jerry's, which gets its milk exclusively from Vermont cows, won't say how much milk it uses or how much ice cream it sells.

As a standardized product under federal regulations, ice cream must be made with milk from healthy cows. Ice cream made from goat's milk, for example, would have to be labeled as such.

Presumably, so would mother's milk ice cream.

To Ben & Jerry's, the idea is udderly ridiculous.

"We applaud PETA's novel approach to bringing attention to an issue, but we believe a mother's milk is best used for her child," spokesman Sean Greenwood said in an e-mail. He didn't respond to requests for an interview.

Leon Berthiaume, general manager of the St. Albans Cooperative Creamery, which provides milk products to Ben & Jerry's, called the dairy products "among the safest in the world."

"Milk from cows has long-term health benefits and has been proven to be safe and healthy and an important part of the American diet for generations," he said. "I'm not ready to make that change."

Cow's milk and mother's milk aren't interchangeable, according to La Leche spokeswoman Jane Crouse, who says breast milk is a dynamic substance that's different with each woman and each child and might have difficulty being processed into ice cream.

Then there's the question of who would provide the milk, and whether they'd be paid.

"Some women feel compelled to donate milk to a milk bank for adopted babies, or for someone who's ill or unable to breast feed. There's plenty of anecdotal evidence about sisters who nurse each others' babies. There's a population of women very willing to share their milk. Whether there's enough to do it for a commercial entity, who can say?" she said.

At the Ben & Jerry's factory in Waterbury, consumers gave a collective "Ewwwwww" to the idea Thursday.

"It's kind of creepy," said Jeff Waugh, 42, of Dayton, Ohio.

"I think it's a little nutty," said the Rev. Roger Wooton, 83, of Malden, Mass., finishing up a cup of Heath Bar Crunch.

"How would they get all that milk?" said his wife, Jane Wooton, 77.

Jen Wahlbrink, 34, of Phoenix, who breast-fed her 11-month-old son, Cameron, said she wouldn't touch ice cream made from mother's milk. She remembers her nursing days — and not that fondly.

"The (breast) pumps just weren't that much fun. You really do feel like a cow," she said, cradling her son in her hands.
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« Reply #79 on: September 26, 2008, 03:56:40 PM »

And, just in the nick of time, PETA (a group that makes me look completely sane by comparison) has come up with a perfect solution to the crisis.

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Mama's milk ice cream cone, anyone?
By JOHN CURRAN, Associated Press Writer Thu Sep 25, 8:04 PM ET

WATERBURY, Vt. - Mooove over, Holsteins. PETA wants world-famous Ben & Jerry's Homemade Ice Cream to tap nursing moms, rather than cows, for the milk used in its ice cream.

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EL, you beat me to it. It was on page two of today's DTH http://www.dailytarheel.com/polopoly_fs/7.14094!/Binder1.pdf

I can see it now, a fight between La Leche League and PETA.

Okay, enough of a hijack.

There have been more findings in baby cereal in HK as well as crackers and cookies that were sent to Japan and elsewhere. Some of milk produced by Heinz plant in China.
http://my.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20080926/48dc5e40_3ca6_1552620080926-1680853953
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« Reply #80 on: September 26, 2008, 06:26:21 PM »

Yeah, I saw something on the news about the Heinz recall.   th_l


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« Reply #81 on: September 26, 2008, 08:26:13 PM »

 th_bi Breast milk ice-cream? Perhaps in China. How funny - all of the sudden the whole nation will be pumping and breastfeeding.
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« Reply #82 on: September 27, 2008, 08:17:05 AM »

th_bi Breast milk ice-cream? Perhaps in China. How funny - all of the sudden the whole nation will be pumping and breastfeeding.

Read again. "Recent news reports state that a Swiss restaurant owner will start buying breast milk from nursing mothers and subsequently using it to replace 75 percent of the cow’s milk in the food he serves."
Possible mother's milk ice cream is in Switzerland. PETA is lobbying Ben and Jerry's in USANIA to do similar. Puts a whole new spin on the old Nestle's ad jingle, "N-E-S-T-L-E-S, Nestles makes the very best___________!" (here's where a cartoon charater did a baritone "chocolate" but now one gets to come up with something else). 
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« Reply #83 on: September 27, 2008, 08:19:43 AM »

I know. I just really can see China picking up the idea faster  th_af
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« Reply #84 on: September 27, 2008, 09:40:50 AM »

It looks like the milk brand produced in PRC to look for is Asahi Green Source Farm. Asahi is the Japanese brewing company that started "Asahi Green Source Farm, a venture with fellow Japanese companies Itochu Corp. and Sumitomo Corp." details below


http://my.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20080927/48ddafc0_3ca6_1552620080927-126580418

Tainted milk crisis hits more global companies
September 27, 2008 6:35 AM EDT
SHANGHAI, China - Snackers, beware: Your favorite chocolate or creamy treats might contain milk contaminated with melamine.

The list of companies facing potential recalls grew Friday as reports of foods tainted with the industrial chemical melamine, which has been blamed in the deaths of four Chinese infants, spread to a widening range of products.

Food companies around the globe are rushing to assess their products and in some cases setting new strategies to prevent problems.

"We have to think about any processed food with milk or protein in it," said James Rice, a food industry veteran who is now China country manager for Tyson Foods Inc., the world's largest meat processor.

While his company is not affected, for others "that includes biscuits, cake mix, energy bars, anything that should have protein in it," he said.

Many food companies already were taking special precautions before Chinese milk suppliers were found to be adding melamine to watered-down milk to boost its apparent protein content. The chemical, which is high in nitrogen, can fool tests aimed at verifying protein levels. The compromised dairy products are blamed for sickening 54,000 children.

Some companies learned the need for extra diligence in China the hard way, during a spate of scandals last year from unsafe foods and toothpaste to melamine-laced ingredients in pet food.

But many continued to disregard the risks, said Jeremy Haft, a businessman who runs factories in China in a variety of industries, including medical products, clothing and building supplies.

"I don't think much was learned from the recalls of a year ago," said Haft, who has written of his experiences in a book, "All the Tea in China."

Tokyo-headquartered Lotte Group, a major snack maker, got caught up in the storm Friday after its popular chocolate-filled Koala cookies were recalled in Hong Kong and Macau because of melamine contamination.

Packages of the cookies, still on sale in Shanghai, list whole milk powder as an ingredient.

"We will look deeply into all the details of the manufacturing process," said Kayh Kim, manager of Lotte China Food's planning department in Beijing. "We really don't want to lose our customers' confidence."

In Tokyo, a company spokeswoman said Lotte products sold in Japan are not made with Chinese dairy ingredients.

Meanwhile, the Shanghai-based maker of White Rabbit, a popular vanilla-flavored toffee, said it stopped domestic sales after the Hong Kong government's Center for Food Safety said the candy contained more than six times the legal limit of melamine.

That followed White Rabbit recalls in Britain, Singapore, New Zealand and Australia.

When rumors of melamine-related recalls of Oreos and other sweets spread by phone text messages and on the Internet earlier this week, Kraft Foods Inc. hastened to reassure customers that none of its Oreo-brand products contain milk powder from China.

Oreo fillings contain no milk, while Oreo cookies with icing on them use milk powder from Australia, it said. "Regardless of where they are produced, Kraft products are always held to the highest quality and safety standards," the company said.

As they expand operations in China, targeting its potential market of 1.3 billion people, many foreign-brand food companies still rely heavily on local partners for quality control, experts say.

New Zealand's dairy cooperative Fonterra discovered the implications when its local partner, Sanlu Group Co., failed to take quick action after Chinese doctors reported that babies drinking its infant formula were developing kidney stones.

"The problem was that Fonterra, right from the start, had no control over what was going on," said Bruce McLaughlin, CEO of Sinogie Consulting in Shanghai, which conducts market research and investigations.

"The most important thing is that if you're going to make an investment and have your name tied up with it, you have to have control over what's going on," McLaughlin said.

For some, that may mean going it alone.

Chocolate maker Barry Callebaut, the world's leading producer of cocoa, chocolate and confectionary products, set up its own factory west of Shanghai earlier this year. The quality control staff report directly to the Swiss company's CEO.

The factory is testing milk products from all local suppliers, setting aside any from domestic sources until it is confirmed safe, said Gaby Tschofen, the company's vice president for corporate communications.

A decision by Japanese beer maker Asahi Breweries Ltd. to set up its own dairy farm in China is proving fortuitous: the company's milk, which went on sale only this month, is selling fast amid the melamine scare.

Asahi Green Source Farm, a venture with fellow Japanese companies Itochu Corp. and Sumitomo Corp., is stocked with more than 1,000 dairy cows from Australia and New Zealand, said Chen Na, a marketing department staffer.

"We already realized the importance of the source of raw milk, since it's easy for trouble to crop up in a booming market, and we have made every effort to control the manufacturing process for liquid milk production," she said. "Better safe than sorry."

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Associated Press researcher Ji Chen contributed to this report.
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« Reply #85 on: September 27, 2008, 08:10:38 PM »

Government is still blaming the cows!

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Chinese scientists said they were developing a chemical substance that could detect melamine quickly and cheaply, and could be used by any dairy farmer, Xinhua reported.
th_ah th_ah th_ah



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« Reply #86 on: September 28, 2008, 02:55:29 AM »

Well, there is a disturbing trend to feed livestock Melamine. I believe Teleplayer * mentioned this earlier in the thread.  th_y

On the other hand, it is easy to blame animals for the follies of men, since animals cannot talk back. th_bi


*I think it was Teleplayer. If it was not: apologies to the poster who mentioned it.
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« Reply #87 on: September 28, 2008, 07:41:42 AM »

Not that this is any surprise:

Amid milk scare, China's elite get special food

By ANITA CHANG, Associated Press Writer Wed Sep 24, 3:52 PM ET

BEIJING - While China grapples with its latest tainted food crisis, the political elite are served the choicest, safest delicacies. They get hormone-free beef from the grasslands of Inner Mongolia, organic tea from the foothills of T and rice watered by melted mountain snow.


And it's all supplied by a special government outfit that provides all-organic goods from farms working under the strictest guidelines.
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I know this is true because I was recently in the home of a teacher/administrator who served me organic grapes and told me they came from the leader. God only knows what the rest of us are eating but I suggest all foreign teachers ask for an immediate pay rise because of the 'stuff' we have to consume in the name of food.
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« Reply #88 on: September 28, 2008, 08:35:11 AM »

I was watching a documentary on HK TV today about tainted milk, babies and poor farmers who are now throwing milk away cause no one buys it. Apparently, diluting milk and adding melamine to make it look like there is enough protein in milk cause babies to develop big heads. Lots of kids have problems with urine passages.
As for farmers, in Hebei they had to sell for little money or slaughter cows. No one now buys their milk that they used to send to San Lu. Especially because mad people blame cows for melamine in milk!!! I was really upset over these documentaries. 
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« Reply #89 on: September 28, 2008, 11:27:06 AM »

PETA: an organization I do not trust. They euthanize more animals per year than some abattoirs. Then they do other nefarious shenanigans, like: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/06/23/EDG11DC9BK1.DTL

I also prefer my breast milk fresh! th_af
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