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cheekygal
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« Reply #60 on: September 23, 2008, 08:48:31 AM »

Here's one I saw both in Beijing and here in Zhuhai: Bright. It is quite good and seems to be not tainted.
Don't know about your brand. If you get San Yuan dairy it is also quite good.
See, try looking for those packs that sell FRESH yogurt and milk as their life span is smaller hence they are less diluted and EVEN IF something is added, it is at least not harmful.
On zhuhai forum one lady (local) tried to say that perhaps it comes from the cows because they may have been feeding cows melamine.  th_bi People indeed are ignorant, aren't they?
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« Reply #61 on: September 23, 2008, 08:56:39 AM »

Really? Bright is NOT tainted?  I'm in Shanghai and all through the weekend I've been getting texts from my chinese counterparts at my school warning me about 'bright' products amongst others.... where can I find an 'official' update of the baddies? I love milk Sad
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« Reply #62 on: September 23, 2008, 09:35:15 AM »

Ops  sorry  th_bi. I was just reading news. Looks like Bright is also tainted. Man...  th_l
Ok I don't know anymore what to drink. I'll just drink something.
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« Reply #63 on: September 23, 2008, 02:10:22 PM »

Buy a lactating nanny goat and indulge yourself th_ag
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« Reply #64 on: September 23, 2008, 06:38:54 PM »

or better yet, buy a lactating nanny th_u th_u th_u
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« Reply #65 on: September 23, 2008, 07:57:02 PM »

That's okay for the babies, but ewwww for my coffee and cereal.

I'm having a mini crisis this morning.  There is not a drop of milk in any of the shops on campus.  I don't have time to get into the city today.  I managed to squeeze a few drops of fresh milk out of the carton for my coffee this morning.  Soy milk is okay on cereal (IMHO) but NOT in coffee.  Might have to drink it black tomorrow.  Shopping trip for fresh milk scheduled ASAP.
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« Reply #66 on: September 23, 2008, 09:21:50 PM »

Ruth

I used to like an odd kind of canned milk.  I think the brand was something like Pokka.  It kind of had a vanilla flavor (didn't quite work with Mac and Cheese th_ah - might be ok with coffee).  Had about 3 or 4 languages on the label.  It might have been imported.  Check TrustMart, aisle next to soft drinks the next time you make it over to DongCheng.
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« Reply #67 on: September 23, 2008, 11:13:07 PM »

Carnation..."evaporated" milk is OK with coffee, as is condensed milk.
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« Reply #68 on: September 24, 2008, 02:45:21 AM »

EL and George - thanks for the tips.  Will be getting fresh milk tomorrow on a run into the city, but it makes sense to have a can or two on hand for emergencies.
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« Reply #69 on: September 24, 2008, 03:20:48 AM »


on my last delivery of milk + yogurt, the guys from the organic farm sent in all the required docs to show that their stuff was 100% clean and untainted (until I got a hold of it, that is  th_u ) I pay out of the wazoo for the privilege of drinking organic but it's proving worth every penny or fen.
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« Reply #70 on: September 24, 2008, 03:23:45 AM »

I wish I could find something like that around here...
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« Reply #71 on: September 24, 2008, 03:54:03 AM »

I wish I could find something like that around here...

cheeks,

maybe call them and see if they know of someone in your area?  http://www.greenyard.cn/
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« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2008, 04:02:57 AM »

The site shows only Beijing locations. I will try to ring them. Thanks!!! th_bf
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« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2008, 08:58:47 AM »

I've been told that all the unopened milk sachets that I have I can return to the supermarket for a cash refund. Oh, and yoghurt, too.
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« Reply #74 on: September 25, 2008, 01:41:40 PM »

http://news.thomasnet.com/IMT/archives/2008/09/chinese-officias-claim-milk-now-safe-reputation-still-damaged-product-safety-system-doubted.html

September 24, 2008
China: Milk Now Safe, Reputation Still Damaged
By Jorina Fontelera

The recent tainted milk scandal deals a crippling blow to the Chinese product safety system as its citizens and people abroad doubt the safety of Chinese goods.

After the maelstrom this past week regarding the melamine-tainted powdered milk from China, officials from the country's quality control agency announced yesterday that the situation is under control, Reuters reports.

"There is no problem," Xiang Yuzhang, the national quality watchdog's chief inspection official, told reporters in Beijing. The agency also announced on its Web site that 235 samples of carton milk and drinking yogurt produced since Sept. 14 showed no signs of the toxic chemical melamine, Reuters adds.

Despite the announcement of good news, this could still be a struggle for China to regain the trust of its people and those who import its goods — most especially because the country has had a history of covering up or delaying bad news. It initially covered up the 2003 SARS epidemic, according to Reuters.

This time is no different. An investigation has found that the Sanlu Group, the company responsible for the contaminated milk, began receiving customer complaints since December 2007. Officials also found that Sanlu knew about the problem since August — when Beijing hosted the 2008 Summer Olympics — but did not report it, Reuters says.

New Zealand's Fonterra, 43 percent owner of Sanlu, tells the Associated Press that it urged Sanlu to recall the product as early as Aug. 2, but the company did not do so until Sept. 11.

As of Monday, the number of Chinese infants hospitalized after drinking the melamine-laced milk formula has reached nearly 13,000. Of that, 104 were in serious condition and already four deaths have been blamed on the toxic milk, Reuters reports. Nearly 40,000 others have reported milder symptoms as the number of cases jumped to nearly 53,000.

Melamine, a chemical used for making plastics and fertilizer, was said to have caused kidney stones but could potentially cause more serious complications by crystallizing and then blocking tiny tubes in the kidneys, medical officials tell Reuters. The nitrogen-rich melamine was added to watered-down milk to fool quality checks that use nitrogen levels to measure the amount of protein in milk.

This is not the first major incident involving melamine in Chinese-made food products, nor is it a first involving baby formula. According to Financial Times, U.S.-based Menu Foods recalled 60 million containers of Chinese-imported pet food in March 2007. The pet food was tainted with melamine, which was linked to the deaths of thousands of dogs and cats. In April 2004, 13 babies from Anhui, China, died of malnutrition after being fed fake baby formula that caused infants' heads to swell.

This unfortunate event is a crippling blow to China's people, reputation and dairy industry as Sanlu is China's biggest maker of infant milk powder. China's food quality watchdog also found melamine in nearly 10 percent of milk and drinking yogurt samples from the country's three major dairy companies: Mengniu Dairy Co., the Inner Mongolia Yili Industrial Group and the Bright Group, Reuters reports.

"The incident is an embarrassing failure for China's product safety system, which was overhauled to restore consumer confidence and preserve export markets after a string of recalls and warnings abroad," the AP adds.

The Chinese government, in a rush to show its commitment to solving the problem, has made some high-profile arrests and forced the resignation of officials, including China's now former quality chief Li Changjiang, the AP reports. Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao tells the United Nations General Assembly in New York that the Chinese government "is taking resolute measure to ensure product quality. We want to make sure that our products and our food will not only meet the domestic and international standards, but also meet the specific requirements of the import countries."

Back in Beijing, where U.S. and European consumer safety officials are meeting on product safety, U.S. officials reiterated the need for better enforcements of product safety standards in manufacturing in light of the recent milk scandal.

"The melamine situation just underscores the message we are trying to deliver, and that is you have to know what's coming into your factory and what's going out of your factory," Nancy Nord, acting head of the U.S. Consumer Products Safety Commission, tells the AP.

According to Agence France-Presse (via Industry Week) China insists that the tainted milk products have not reached Europe or the U.S. The World Health Organization (WHO), however, urged importing countries to enforce stricter monitoring of Chinese milk products, Reuters reports.

At least 12 countries have banned Chinese dairy products but WHO does not recommend "to just ban all Chinese milk products, at least not at this stage." WHO is currently in discussion with Chinese officials on strengthening its food quality system and says that local authorities need increased training to create a "more robust reporting system," the AP reports.


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