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« on: December 17, 2007, 10:40:34 PM »

http://education.guardian.co.uk/tefl/story/0,,2228821,00.html

Looks like Korea is planning to get seriously tough on Visa requirements.  If what is outlined in the article is actually implemented and enforced, it will make it much harder for Korean schools to find teachers and vice versa. 

I wonder if this will have any effect on the number of teachers (and 'teachers') opting for China?

Also, there has been much talk of China tightening up its own requirements for a while now.  Any word on this?
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2007, 12:56:45 AM »
I know the degree requirement is being actually enforced in Shanghai and Guangzhuo. Also, many teachers in the ROK, working in that peripheral after hours English school scenario are not that keen to go through the formal verification process, and are looking for an easier, if lower paid, gig.
I can't see any problems for those currently in China, but entry level work may become more competitive for newbies.
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2007, 01:37:46 AM »
This has been happening for a while for Korea jobs.  It was already the case for jobs on the EPIK scheme (which is apparently what you have to apply for if you don't want a dodgy school).

Anyhow, I think that if these jobs are going to be doing this, then there needs to be a bit more expected the other day.  If jobs are going to give teachers more hassle, teachers can reasonably expect to give jobs more hassle re. broken contracts, shoddy living conditions, poor maintenance, etc.  It has to be two way.
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2007, 01:39:33 AM »
What's more ludicrous are the hoops that the Thai government is introducing for even the most bog-standard 30,000 baht a month piss jobs.  th_l

They're going to be making people not only have a Degree, but ideally also have a PGCE and/or B.Ed, and if they don't have that, be submitted to a series of rigourous Thai teaching exams.  th_l
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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2007, 02:22:37 AM »
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Also, there has been much talk of China tightening up its own requirements for a while now.  Any word on this?

This is a common thing that we hear about.  In Beijing they did up the req's for a work VISA to include 2 years of experience, I've not seen that in print or on the news but that is the word on the street. But as we all know they can be had regardless depending on your school's connections and power.

Honestly I can't see how China could enforce the law so strictly. There are so many teaching jobs available with schools screaming for teachers that if they did the market would be seriously damaged. Not to mention the teachers who could qualify for working VISAs could start demanding very high wages in this scenario which is bad from the school's point of view.
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2007, 10:51:26 AM »
What Limubai said.  I think South Korea will get some real comeuppance for the shabby way they've apparently treated foreign teachers.  Well, if they're English is so good that they no longer need so many of us, then fine. th_c
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2007, 10:55:53 AM »
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Well, if they're English is so good

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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2007, 10:58:46 AM »
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2007, 11:02:31 AM »
Thank you.  I meant to do that.
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2007, 11:27:17 AM »
Nanning is seriously tightening up the regs. Casual teachers also much have residency permits apparently. Degree requirements seriously enforced.

My possibly new Uni job is telling me about it. They are having issues. I am one answer to them since i got all the stuff.
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2007, 03:25:28 PM »
I was slightly wrong.

Hot word from the street and in print(?) - Biz visas will not be extended or be offered covering the period of Aug 1 to 30, 2008.  Dell is already having a major headache about this as their teachers are all on biz visas, re - they are freaking out at the thought of losing about 5 million kuai a day in revenue here in Beijing alone.

This apparently was decided/announced on the 13th but word is just now hitting the schools.
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