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How much should you get paid at English language centers in Zhengzhou for PT?

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ChinaChao

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How much should you get paid at English language centers in Zhengzhou for PT?
« on: March 30, 2010, 11:33:44 PM »
The classes are an hour long and it's usually two hours with a 10 minute break in between so 55 minutes per class. We're suppose to be teaching TOFEL, IELTS, and or SAT. I'm not sure yet but I want to know what is the pay scale for teaching this type of English plus the class size is only about 5 adult students.
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Re: How much should you get paid at English language centers in Zhengzhou for PT?
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2010, 12:52:04 AM »
Too many variables. Are you under contract to do these? If so, then nothing extra. Is it overtime? Outside work? Private? At a house? In a school environment?

And then, how much iis expected from you, the kids, duration, frequency?

Details will help pin it down
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Re: How much should you get paid at English language centers in Zhengzhou for PT?
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2010, 01:04:54 AM »
Sorry, I don't know anything about Zhengzhou.  If comparing it to Dongguan helps, the going rate for classes through a language mill here are 150-180 per (teaching) hour.  With a good reputation a teacher can make 200 or even 250 for the kinds of classes you have described.  Privately one can command 200-250 per hour.  By leaving out the middle man (language mill), the customer pays less and the teacher gets more.

If there are other FTs in the city, you could ask around to find out what the going rate is.  Don't expect the higher end of the pay scale until you've proven yourself.
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Re: How much should you get paid at English language centers in Zhengzhou for PT?
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2010, 02:57:09 AM »
Going rate at language mills in Fuzhou is 150 an hour for almost any part time teaching.
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Re: How much should you get paid at English language centers in Zhengzhou for PT?
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2010, 03:33:52 AM »
One very big factor is the local market, and I personally have no idea what ZZ is like. Guangzhou-Dongguan-Shenzhen rates are much higher than in (most) other cities, but the local economy in that part of China justifies this. Dalian, where I live, has seen rates remain pretty stagnant at 90-120 / class hour for the past 8 years, which is part of the reason why I routinely turn job offers down. (When I get back into teaching, I might well move on for just that reason.)
This forum is just one of many places where you can ask this question. Keep asking, you'll get an answer somewhere. (Maybe even a correct answer) Bargain for what you can get. And please, report back.
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ChinaChao

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Re: How much should you get paid at English language centers in Zhengzhou for PT?
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2010, 03:34:17 AM »
Okay. Eye opener. Call me paranoid but where did I get a figure of 100 to 120 rmb per hour? Was this a figure 5 years ago? I also feel that with specialized teaching especially something like SATs or exams, I need more than 100. Anyone else? Let me know.
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Re: How much should you get paid at English language centers in Zhengzhou for PT?
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2010, 03:45:30 AM »
Not necessarily from 5 years ago.  Could be a very fair rate today, or even a high rate, depending upon the local market, as latefordinner said.  What are they offering you?  Are there other FTs working for the company?  If so, ask around and find out what they're making.  You should be offered something in the same range.  As I said before, expect to start out at the low end of the range until the employers and students get to know you. 

Quote from: ChinaChao on March 31, 2010, 03:34:17 AM
I also feel that with specialized teaching especially something like SATs or exams, I need more than 100.
Do you have specialized training to go along with the specialized teaching?  If not, the rate for those kinds of classes will probably be comparable with the other classes the language center offers.
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Re: How much should you get paid at English language centers in Zhengzhou for PT?
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2010, 09:49:36 PM »
I think 100-120/hr is entirely likely to be a fair rate in a place like Zhengzhou, which is a second tier city, not particularly near a 1st tier city. I knew someone working for a uni there who made less than 4000 a month, which would sort of suggest that the salaries there aren't going to be sky high. I lived and taught in Kunming for about 5 years and the situation there sounded just like what latefordinner described about Dalian. Hourly rates for tutoring were stuck at about 80-120RMB/hr for at least the five years that I lived there, and I would be surprised if it has gone up since I left!

No need to get paranoid -- the rates for part time work depend entirely on the market where you live. You need to find other local foreigners and ask around. I think we do have a few forum members who have lived in or near Zhengzhou so maybe they'll chime in.
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Re: How much should you get paid at English language centers in Zhengzhou for PT?
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2010, 09:53:01 PM »
Well, I was going to post something here, but just as I hit reply, TLD posted about the same thing I'd planned to say. 100-120/hour PT is indeed probably a reasonable expectation for a backwater cow-town like Zhengzhou.

Places like Web Int'l are paying 120/hour in much more expensive and happ'nin' towns like Suzhou... bibibibibi
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Re: How much should you get paid at English language centers in Zhengzhou for PT?
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2010, 11:50:51 PM »
I was once offered 200 an hour right off the bat to teach at a training mill here in Ningbo.  Oddly, this was actually a few years ago. Now that we foreigners are a bit more thick on the ground, I hear the adult training schools are pretty much all offering 150 an hour round here.
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Re: How much should you get paid at English language centers in Zhengzhou for PT?
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2010, 01:35:23 AM »
Thanks for the advice everyone. I hope what Ruth said is true about the proving yourself or otherwise.
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