"I don't know how much God has to do to get the attention of politicians. We've had an earthquake; we've had a hurricane. He said, 'Are you going to start listening to me here?'"And didn't Pat Robertson bleat something similar about the recent earthquake? Jeez, we gots weirdos in Canberra, but I think you beats us!
—Michele Bachmann
Don't they put people who listen to 'voices' and people not there in the loonie bin mmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm ahahahahah
Oh wait guys, it's ok! She was just being funny
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/30/michelle-bachmann-hurricane-warning-joke
"Abstinence works."
—Rick Perry, when asked why his state has abstinence-only sex education despite having the third-highest teen-pregnancy rate in the U.S.
And it continues........ agagagagagQuote"Abstinence works."
—Rick Perry, when asked why his state has abstinence-only sex education despite having the third-highest teen-pregnancy rate in the U.S.
Our nutters aren't quite as stupid as yours.
"NOW, THEREFORE, I, RICK PERRY, Governor of Texas, under the authority vested in me by the Constitution and Statutes of the State of Texas, do hereby proclaim the three-day period from Friday, April 22, 2011 to Sunday, April 24, 2011, as Days of Prayer for Rain in the State of Texas."
—from an official proclamation. The prayers went unanswered.
Meanwhile, my TV is playing video of some unknown Irwin stomping around in what looks like Florida.And you are watching?? Anyway he can't be an "Irwin" as you are pleased to label us, cos all of us know that Usitania only has aggilators!
When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty.
Thomas Jefferson
bumbsRhymes with thumbs, but not quite as useful, or spelt the same way! agagagagag agagagagag
"You know, we used to all love Sarah Palin, conservatives like me, for her enemies. I'm starting to dislike her because of her fans."I'm sorry, but I don't know what this means! bibibibibi
—Ann Coulter
And you are watching?? Anyway he can't be an "Irwin" as you are pleased to label us, cos all of us know that Usitania only has aggilators!
Quote"You know, we used to all love Sarah Palin, conservatives like me, for her enemies. I'm starting to dislike her because of her fans."I'm sorry, but I don't know what this means! bibibibibi
—Ann Coulter
I'm sorry, but I don't know what this means!
My motto has always been.........throw all of the bumbs out. Every last one of them.
I seriously thought he was talking about Irwins.Silly boy! kkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkk
Hopefully, the next VP will still be Joe Biden.
Yeah, Obama could campaign on a platform of "Slowly getting the hang of it" or "At least I haven't started another war" and still look much better than anything the GOP has right now.
SAY WHAT?From Doonesbury, via Slate.
"Wasilla was so white that there was only one African American in the entire school system. One day when the boy was in junior high school, Todd, then a senior, and two friends waylaid him by the gravel pit adjacent to Wasilla High and beat him up, simply because he was black. 'Sure, Todd was a racist bully, but that just made him one of the guys. Growing up black in Wasilla was hell.'"
—from The Rogue, by Joe McGinniss
WHA?
Anna Bramfeld | Oak Park, IL | September 12, 2011
Wha....? Just now, as I was folding up today's Chicago Tribune, I realized I'd forgotten to read Doonesbury. I opened up the comic page again and discovered the following message: "This week's Doonesbury does not meet our standards of fairness. Please enjoy this substitute strip." I'm thinking of cancelling my subscription, which I have never considered in the past. The Tribune has a columnist and a cartoonist who have made careers out of trashing Obama almost every day, and I have accepted it as part of the ugly downside of a democratic society and a free press. And now the Trib says it can't publish a cartoon that quotes a book about Sarah Palin?
Discussing the individual mandate, CNN's Blitzer asked Paul a hypothetical question about a young man without insurance who is severely injured and requires hospitalization for six months. Who would pay for his care? Should society "just let him die?" "Yes," came a few calls from the crowd.
I think it's important to remember that the Sarah Palin and all of them are a loud but very small minority.
They make a lot of noise, but I can imagine a lot of people, even people who hate Obama actually chickening out of trying to put some wingnut as president.
Maybe I'm over optimistic though, I read a really good essay about it by an ex US Republican who has quit the party over the direction...
http://www.truth-out.org/goodbye-all-reflections-gop-operative-who-left-cult/1314907779
I know this is overly dramatic, but the National Socialists were a small minority as were the Bolsheviks.
you just associated the Tea Party and GOP with the Nazis.Just a very small association!! ahahahahah ahahahahah
You just associated the Tea Party and GOP with the Nazis. With all due respect...that is the kind of bullshit bomb throwing that people are sick of. If you want to talk about politics, talk about the issues instead of throwing bombs. bfbfbfbfbf
Sweet, a thread actually invoking Godwin's law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
fear gaining more and more political capitalIn that one respect at least, I believe your comparison is valid.
ha, I think you have a point. Godwin's Law is absurd, which is why I like it.Sweet, a thread actually invoking Godwin's law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
"Precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued[4] that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact."
So was my invocation of Social Democrats an overuse or appropriate?
SAY WHAT?
"Never hurts to rumormonger."
—Sarah Palin, in an email musing on ways to prevent Alaska Senate President Lyda Green from being re-elected
"Flippin' unbelievable. Wouldn't you think they'd be afraid of being proved wrong when they rumor around the building like that?"
—Palin, in a subsequent email objecting to a (true) rumor that Bristol Palin was pregnant
"I have more power than anybody other than the president, in the sense that I can get things changed, quickly. I don't have to go through the legislative process; I don't have to do any of that. I can just bring it to the people and say, 'Look, this has gotta be dealt with.'"
—Bill O'Reilly
SAY WHAT?regular little Tiger Woods, innhe! bibibibibi
"He put us in Libya. He is now putting us in Africa."
—Michele Bachmann on Obama
SAY WHAT?I think that's fucked up! bibibibibi
""It's not okay. It's a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.""
—Rick Santorum on contraception
This is the idiot that said, "sack all the school janitors and pay students to clean the schools"
"This is a person who is fundamentally out of touch with how the world works, who happened to have played a wonderful con, as a result of which he is now president,"Classic projection in a lime-green shade of envy
Anyone seen the new rick perry 'gays in the military but kids can't celebrate Christmas ad'? It is so absurd and shocking that it is hard to believe it's real. Unbelievable that someone can say something so stupid and be so ignorant and still be considered relevant.What about gays in the military celebrating Christmas? Is that wrong?
Anyone seen the new rick perry 'gays in the military but kids can't celebrate Christmas ad'? It is so absurd and shocking that it is hard to believe it's real. Unbelievable that someone can say something so stupid and be so ignorant and still be considered relevant.
""Every barrel of oil that comes out of those sands in Canada is a barrel of oil that we don't have to buy from a foreign source.""
—Gov. Rick Perry
Now, this I just don't understand! Is he saying something here, or just flapping his gums?
""I want the full portrait of evolution and the people who came up with the ideas to be presented. It's a worldview and it's godless. Atheism has been tried in various societies, and they've been pretty criminal domestically and internationally. The Soviet Union, Cuba, the Nazis, China today: they don't respect human rights...Columbine, remember that? They were believers in evolution. That's evidence right there.""
—NH state Rep. Jerry Bergevin, on his bill requiring schools to include evolution scientists' positions on atheism
Now, this I just don't understand! Is he saying something here, or just flapping his gums?Oh, he definately wants to say something and is not alone. Here's a bit about the Republican candidate who just "won" the Iowa Caucus Tuesday.
tuition-free public schools,Hey! That's a novel idea....schools with no tuition! ahahahahah ahahahahah
I think that one of the reasons that these nutcases have taken over the Republicans is because America is traditionally so anti-Socialist and there is a huge vacuum.
It's quite worrying how there seem to be more and more fundamentalists because it also means that there are no checks on the capitalists. I wouldn't even be surprised if it was deliberate.
Quotetuition-free public schools,Hey! That's a novel idea....schools with no tuition! ahahahahah ahahahahah
Hey! That's a novel idea....schools with no tuition!
Do that imply that one pays tuition for Australian public schools, like the one pictured here?No, that implies that "tuition-free" implies that the schools don't actually teach anything! llllllllll
I think that most Americans truly think of Canada as pretty much interchangeable with the U.S. However, Canadians do not seem to appreciate that viewpoint too much.Let me address a few subjects...
Us early teabaggers don't hold a lot of high reguard for the current crop of yahoos who have associated themselves with the movement. They have managed to hijack the movement, move it to the extreme right and now it is so marginalized and vocal that the moderates in the movement are being completely shut out by both sides (the right because we aren't in lockstep with their beliefs and the left because we have conservative leanings they paint us with the same brush they do the radicals)
SAY WHAT?
""This is the kind of, the kind of snobbery that we see from those who think they know how to run our lives. Rise up, America. Defend your own freedoms.""
—Rick Santorum, on President Obama's (alleged) suggestion that all kids should go to college
Raoul- you are definitely not the first Catholic Liberal I've run in to...
I believe in combating abortion with prayer, not by shooting doctors or pushing baby carriages with bloody baby-dolls or getting in the faces of poor scared, conflicted women who may be heading into Planned Parenthood for very different reasons than an abortion.let me make it clear that this is the MAINSTREAM Catholic view. I did not mean to imply that this was something unique to me.
Trust me when I say that the above is embraced by most Americans.
Trust me when I say that the above is embraced by most Americans.
I might go for "many", A-Train, but not "most". It might be accurate to say "most" Americans subscribe to the misconception that our country was founded to be intrinsically a Christian nation; it wasn't...but people here still tend to expect their political leaders to express acceptance of Christianity...
the lesser of two weaselsThat's "the lesser of two weevils" EL. ahahahahah
Quotethe lesser of two weaselsThat's "the lesser of two weevils" EL. ahahahahah
SAY WHAT?ahahahahah
""I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that's the America millions of Americans believe in. That's the America I love.""
—Mitt Romney in stump speech
Talking Without Saying Anything is a very old and common political tool. But I gotta admit...Romney raises it to a true art form, at levels one would have never suspected even possible. bibibibibi
What bothers me most is this reverence the country has for business and business people. The free market is today's temple, Adam Smith the prophet. That and the reflex-contempt for anything to do with government.
SAY WHAT?
""Who let her slip or pushed her underneath that water?...Who let Whitney Houston go under her water?""
—Nancy Grace on CNN
just speaking from his heartIs that because he has no brain to speak of..or from??........or does he just talk out of his arse!
Quotejust speaking from his heartIs that because he has no brain to speak of..or from??........or does he just talk out of his arse!
By the way,
I am a rare beast indeed; you're more likely to find a unicorn or a Sasquatch than another like me. Someday you can tell your grandkids you knew one!
I am a Catholic Liberal. I'm NOT a "Liberal Catholic"; that label is used by a sort of a non-Roman Catholic cult group. But I AM a Catholic Liberal...almost an oxymoron like "military intelligence."
Yeah, I know. I think I'm only rare in this central part of the USA. And I'm not alone here, either, thank goodness. bfbfbfbfbf
""We've got to do something about these Asians coming in, opening up businesses -- those dirty shops. They ought to go. I'll just say that right now, you know. But we need African-American businesspeople to be able to take their places, too.""
—two-term DC council member Marion Barry, in a primary night victory speech
....and speaking of business...Quote""We've got to do something about these Asians coming in, opening up businesses -- those dirty shops. They ought to go. I'll just say that right now, you know. But we need African-American businesspeople to be able to take their places, too.""
—two-term DC council member Marion Barry, in a primary night victory speech
....and speaking of business...This is very confusing. I expected this to be a white, woman, just searched the 'net and it turns out it's a black, man. I know anyone can be racist and ignorant but jeez.Quote""We've got to do something about these Asians coming in, opening up businesses -- those dirty shops. They ought to go. I'll just say that right now, you know. But we need African-American businesspeople to be able to take their places, too.""
—two-term DC council member Marion Barry, in a primary night victory speech
I can't believe in 10 pages of 'debate' everyone has missed the answer -
flouride.
You misspelled "fluoride". uuuuuuuuuu
White women are more apt to be racist and ignorant? mmmmmmmmmm
Anyway...we're talking occasional Washington DC mayor and repeat-convicted coke fiend Marion Barry here. Calling him a "colorful character" would be putting it mildly.
"What she said was offensive...It was so offensive, I don't even want to say it in front of women. I would not say that in mixed company."
-- Michigan state Rep. Mike Callton, on Rep. Lisa Brown being banned from speaking on the House floor for saying the word "vagina"
"[Obama is] a radical ideologue, a ruthless politician who despises the country and the way it was founded and the way in which it became great. He hates it."ahahahahah ahahahahah I love Rush Limbaugh. He is such a fuckwit!!
-- Rush Limbaugh
one merely needs to check the sources of the news.So I should watch FOX News??
There are no news channel that objectively reports the news.
"[Obama] really is a lot like the substitute referees in the sense that he's not a real president. He doesn't do any of the things that presidents do. He doesn't worry about any of the things presidents do...And I suspect that he's pretty contemptuous of the rest of us."I reckon Obama would be pretty contemptuous of Gingrich, at least.
—Newt Gingrich
Quote"[Obama] really is a lot like the substitute referees in the sense that he's not a real president. He doesn't do any of the things that presidents do. He doesn't worry about any of the things presidents do...And I suspect that he's pretty contemptuous of the rest of us."I reckon Obama would be pretty contemptuous of Gingrich, at least.
—Newt Gingrich
Apparently, Cint Eastwood spoke at the Republican National Convention. The vote is still split over whether he was spoofing or in early-stage dementia or working undercover for the Obama camapign
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/31/politics/eastwood-speech/index.html
Yeah, but I watched Eastwood's speech on TV. My vote is early-stage dementia.
Most of the Republican element in the USA has seriously stepped off the curb...gone completely gobblers. And Michele Bachmann is leading the charge. kkkkkkkkkk
Fortunately, at least for now, the most rabid element seems to be completely unelectable in the general election. The only possibly electable Repubs are the relatively-moderate Mitt Romney, the unapologetic personal bitch of the banks and major corporations; and possibly Texas governor Rick Perry, who has been described as "George W. Bush on steroids". aaaaaaaaaa
I won't eat my hat if wrong, but I expect a 2000-type election cluster-bungle a la Bush v. Gore. Romney will mysteriously take Ohio but there will be more irregularities and lots and lots of information and disinformation going around.
Florida's Republican Gov. Rick Scott signed legislation earlier this year that imposed new restrictions on voting, many of which were overturned by the courts.http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/11/05/164355695/legal-battle-surrounds-florida-early-voting-dispute
One provision that remained in place reduced the days for early voting from 14 to eight. That led to long lines at early polling stations across the state last week, and some waits of four or more hours.
Early voting was very important to Florida Democrats in 2008, when a strong early-vote turnout helped Barack Obama carry the state.
Last week, a series of Democrats sent letters to Scott asking him to add days for early voting. He refused, so Democrats went to court. That's when county elections officials who were named in the lawsuit decided to allow in-person absentee voting.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/11/05/164355695/legal-battle-surrounds-florida-early-voting-disputeQuote
I'm already kind of miffed about this- I requested my absentee ballot from my town clerk before they were released and she sent it as soon as she could on Sept 27th. Still not here. Wisconsin is one of the states that only allows you to vote using a paper ballot that needs to be shipped both way and doesn't even accept the federal "emergency ballot" you can print off and send in. This whole push by Republicans to curb "voter fraud" seems much more effective at limiting the ability of people (especially from more liberal demographics) to vote.
Well, now things can return to the normal level of insanity...Obama won and all this election stuff can take a break for four years and people can go back to watching Honey Boo Boo and waiting for the first intstallment of the "Shades ofI advise staying away from all U.S. news sources as the dialogue regarding the 2014 election, I guarantee, will start tomorrow.barfGrey" movie trilogy. agagagagag agagagagag
"This election is a total sham... We are not a democracy!...We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty... We should have a revolution in this country!"
-- Donald Trump tweeting on election night
"It's a perplexing time for many of us right now."
-- Sarah Palin
Sore losers.....Quote"This election is a total sham... We are not a democracy!...We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty... We should have a revolution in this country!"
-- Donald Trump tweeting on election night
"It's a perplexing time for many of us right now."
-- Sarah Palin
A-Train- was your status with your township "permanent overseas"? By the time I discovered I could get a ballot that way it would've cost well over $30 to mail it back. I was under the impression that ballot didn't have any local elections on it, is that true? Well, live and learn I guess. My district is a rural township NW of Madison.Yes, "Permanent Overseas". Depends on the municipality, of course but it may only have to be postmarked by election day, not arrived before.
Only 4 more years to go until the next US Presidential debacle.
Of course, there's one way to put an end to this insanity. Insane times call for insane leadership.VOTE ESCAPED LUNATIC
for
EMPEROR OF EARTH
Thank you my fellow Americans! I am so glad this was not a repeat of 2000. Watching the results come in from Florida, I was worried there for a few.
Sore losers.....Quote"This election is a total sham... We are not a democracy!...We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty... We should have a revolution in this country!"
-- Donald Trump tweeting on election night
"It's a perplexing time for many of us right now."
-- Sarah Palin
I'm not sure they'll be able to pull it offIf this is from a "red state", then their secession will probably elevate the IQ of both, new countries.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a197/Bissessar/IMG_0869.jpg)
Sore losers.....Quote"This election is a total sham... We are not a democracy!...We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty... We should have a revolution in this country!"
-- Donald Trump tweeting on election night
"It's a perplexing time for many of us right now."
-- Sarah Palin
Ever hear of the bumper sticker in 2000 called "Sore/Loserman"? Talk about sore losers, Al Gore is the king of sore losers!
In the case of this year, Mitt Romney was a weak candidate. Despite the fact that the unemployment rate is worse than it EVER was during the Bush years (when it was typically around 5 to 6 percent). Also, despite the fact that Obama failed to close Gitmo, failed to reduce our military involvement in the middle east, failed to get rid of the Patriot Act, Mitt Romney still lost. That should tell you something about how weak of a candidate Mitt Romney was.
Come to think of it, maybe 2012 isn't all that much different from 2000 after all.
except for the obvious fact that he garnered more votes than Bush in both Forida and nationally, you'd be right.
In the case of this year, Mitt Romney was a weak candidate. Despite the fact that the unemployment rate is worse than it EVER was during the Bush years (when it was typically around 5 to 6 percent). Also, despite the fact that Obama failed to close Gitmo, failed to reduce our military involvement in the middle east, failed to get rid of the Patriot Act, Mitt Romney still lost. That should tell you something about how weak of a candidate Mitt Romney was.
Come to think of it, maybe 2012 isn't all that much different from 2000 after all.
Check your facts. Unemployement is now less than it was at the end of Bush's last term.
Not to mention the fact that the downward slide he left us with had to be overcome to achieve this feat.
The losers always turn on their candidate and devour their young. WHO among the other nut-jobs would have been a better, general election candidate than Romney? Bachman? Palin? Gingrich? Santorum? Romney was the BEST of the worst and if the GOP doesn't accept the winds of change, they will be gone with the very same wind.
You're going to give January of 2009 to Obama? Seriously? He was in office for the last 10 days of the month and you're holding him responsible for the unemployment rate going from 7.3 to 7.8 in the entire month of January, 2009? Intersting accountability.
"Why is it still above 7.3% after 4 years?"
Because the crisis was THAT flippin' bad and the stimulus package was too small due to comprimses with the GOP
and, even more importantly, the fact that government spending by the states decreased during the past four years greatly mitigating the positive effect of the stimulus. Recessions are no time for austerity, (something the Republicans cannot accept), anymore than they are times for tax increses, (something the Democrats agreed with). Just ask any Englishman looking for work.
"Why did Obama's experts make the mistake of telling Obama that the stimulus would keep the unemployment rate below 8%?"
They either overestimated the stimulus effect, underestimated the recession, (which is doubtful), or got what they could and prayed for the best. This recession is new territory. Nothing quite like it, (save for elements of the Great Depression), has ever happened before.
Romney loved to say that we would be out of a typical recession by now. This was NOT a typical recession. Take one look at the unemployment rate graph from your link, the almost total collapse of the financial industry and real estate explosion. Usualy, real estate leads us out of a recession. It simply was, and is, not there to do that this time.
I think a far more pertinent question would be "How the hell can the conservatives be championing the removal of financial regulations?". The removal of regulations over the past 40 years, (yes I blame Clinton as much as anyone), has led to at least two financial crises; remember the S&L blowup? They have a hell of a lot of damn gall to actually keep a straight face and make that argument after our near-death experience with deregulation.
"What is this "change" you are talking about?"
I'll give you that one. As Ralph Nader said, "The only difference between the Republican and Democratic parties is the velocities with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door". The change I'm talking about is social, not economic.
"I would submit that scientists cannot tell us the age of the earth. The only way we can know the age of the earth is if we have eyewitness testimony of somebody who was there."
—Dr. Terry Mortenson, who has a Phd in the history of geology
I didn't know they gave PhD's in the history of geology. mmmmmmmmmm
Technically, he's correct. The exact age of the earth would be a little hard to determine if there isn't an exact definition of when the coalescing debris officially achieved planetary status and if no one was there to note the exact day when this happened.
Geologically speaking, it's hard to pin it down with an accuracy of less than plus or minus a hundred million years or so.
Quite an epistle by elzoog. I won't extend this conversation much further but there are a couple of his points that can't be gotten away with.
When you say that the Stimulus package was initiated by Bush are giving credit to him or blame? Or just trying to minimize Obama?
Because if you recall the moment, it was bi-partisan effort and the Bush people asked President-elect Obama if he wanted it passed during lame-duck session or after he took office; he chose the former.
To go on and on about the size of the package seems futile. The fact is that it wasn't big enough; $.8 trillion in a $15 trillion economy, (I assume your $30 trillion number is a typo), and that it was mitigated by state-level spending cuts that actually outstripped the size of the stimulus as early as late 2009 http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/09/09/816761/flabbergasted-rand-paul-learns-public-employment-decreased-under-obama/?mobile=nc.
"Well the last time I didn't have much money, I had to eat noodles because I couldn't afford steak.". If the government followed that path it would have accelerated and deepened the recession. This is exactly what Hoover did in '31 and '32 with results that we now know had the opposite of the intended effect.
So, unless you're in love with '30's level suffering, I think we can consider that lesson learned. If not convinced, see U.K. over the past two years.
"...except for the long recession of 1872? You know, where the banks failed and President Grant decided NOT to bail them out?". Really? That's your analogy? Because the manufacturing and financial industries have undergone a few fundamental changes in the past 140 years.
I'm no fan of the bailout, but you can't possibly think that the effect of a financial collapse in pre-industrial revolution 1872 is comparable to 2008?
I couldn't agree with you more about the ill effects of the bailouts. I think it had to be done as a tourniquet, but far more changes should be in place to stop this from ever happening again.
What general changes? The general liberalization that is now out front after taking a back seat since the Reagan era. Examples? Gay rights, passing of marijuana laws, increased taxation on the wealthy, Obamacare now ratified and permanent, next will be immigration reform.
"He wanted to be president less than anyone I've met in my life. He had no desire to...run. If he could have found someone else to take his place...he would have been ecstatic to step aside."
—Tagg Romney on his father Mitt
Just another amusing little quote...Quote"He wanted to be president less than anyone I've met in my life. He had no desire to...run. If he could have found someone else to take his place...he would have been ecstatic to step aside."
—Tagg Romney on his father Mitt
Quite an epistle by elzoog. I won't extend this conversation much further but there are a couple of his points that can't be gotten away with.
Whew...how did I overlook this duzey. The topic is stale and boring now, but I feel obliged to mention that Hoover stressed a balanced budget and tight monetary policy during the beginning of the Great Depression. Keynes, (and ten years of suffering), taught us the folly of that policy during a downturn.
It boils down to this question..."Do you think the economy would be better off if the stimulus had NOT been passed?".
...By that time, one would hope they're looking at personal financial portfolios that will have lost as much as 5% in the preceding week...and it will be time to do what's right...
Quite an epistle by elzoog. I won't extend this conversation much further but there are a couple of his points that can't be gotten away with.
Whew...how did I overlook this duzey. The topic is stale and boring now, but I feel obliged to mention that Hoover stressed a balanced budget and tight monetary policy during the beginning of the Great Depression. Keynes, (and ten years of suffering), taught us the folly of that policy during a downturn.
It boils down to this question..."Do you think the economy would be better off if the stimulus had NOT been passed?".
Incorrect:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/06/AR2009040603355.html
"William Hettinger [letters, April 3] rewrote history by falsely claiming that "President Herbert Hoover's response" to the 1929 stock market crash "was to balance the federal budget." Hoover actually ran up massive deficits, as the federal Office of Management and Budget notes. "
Paradoxically, liberal economists blame Hoover's tax increases for exacerbating the Great Depression. Guess what liberals want to do in the current recession. Raise taxes on the rich.. Funny how liberals don't really believe their own ideology.
Not to mention the fact that raising taxes on the rich will not pay for the deficit.
quoteone should simply reply OUTSIDE the original bloody quote. Then we would know who said what to who!! asasasasas
@elzoog: You didn't answer the question. Would the economy be better or worse if we had NOT passed the stimulus packages?
Saying Hoover was a deficit spender is the conservative participation in revisionist history,
(along with declaring Nixon as a liberal).
In 1931 he both increased taxes and decreased spending in the sacred name of a balanced budget.
Hoovers own words on March 8th, 1932..."Nothing is more important than balancing the budget with the least increase in taxes. The Federal Government should be in such position that it will need issue no securities which increase the public debt after the beginning of the next fiscal year, July 1". http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=23478
The spending in 1932 you refer to, (Golden Gate Bridge etc.), came far too late and was far too little. That year he also signed the Smoot-Hawley Act, the largest tariff in U.S. History against the advice of all major economists; effectively raising taxes and prices.
As for the advocating of an increase in taxes on the wealthiest 2% of U.S. citizens being a liberal hypocrisy?
It's one I have no problem living with given the enormous tax breaks and subsidies they have received over the past 30 years and the relatively stable recovery we're in.
"If [more gun control] happens it's gonna spark a civil war, and I'll be glad to fire the first shot...I'm not letting anybody take my guns. If it goes one inch further, I'm going to start killing people."Lurrve dem guns!!
—James Yeager, who runs a firearms and tactical training company
"Obama is SO elitist! HE gets to carry nuclear 'football,' but feds ARREST private citizens trying to assemble nuclear device!"ahahahahah ahahahahah
-- Robert George tweet
Quote"Obama is SO elitist! HE gets to carry nuclear 'football,' but feds ARREST private citizens trying to assemble nuclear device!"ahahahahah ahahahahah
-- Robert George tweet
No topic would be complete unless we can drag the President's daughters into the fray.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/01/17/nra_ad_about_obama_s_daughters_david_keene_says_ad_wasn_t_about_the_president.html
"The ad, first released online Tuesday night, calls the president an "elitist hypocrite" for pushing for stronger gun-control laws while his daughters are protected by armed Secret Service agents. "Are the president’s kids more important than yours?" the ad asks at its outset. "Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school?""
"You know how to stop abortion? Require that each one occur with a gun."
—Rush Limbaugh
Quote"You know how to stop abortion? Require that each one occur with a gun."
—Rush Limbaugh
Words fail me!
The guy who wrote that on the bill is still an idiot,
Personally, the woman should have asked to see the manager and tried to have the bill corrected. agagagagag agagagagag
"They're a smaller country, and they've got lots of sun. Right? They've got a lot more sun than we do."
—Fox News commentator Shibani Joshi, on why Germany's solar power industry is doing better than ours
Errr...Germany has mountains and rain, lots of rain...America has several deserts. Are there actually any educational requirements for becoming a FOX commentator??
I thought George was talking about Australia rather than the US.Teacheraus, the title of this thread says it all!! agagagagag agagagagag
http://writingshares.com/abc-news-video-houston-texas-kyle-copelands-armed-citizen-project-aims-to-give-free-guns-20-gauge-shotguns-to-citizens-for-self-defense/
I believe this is satire, but somehow I could believe it.
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/04/courageous-senators-stand-up-to-american-people.html
url=http://www.mzv.cz/washington/en/czech_u_s_relations/news/statement_of_the_ambassador_of_the_czech.html]Statement of the Ambassador of the Czech Republic on the Boston terrorist attack[/url]
It's amazing that the Czech republic had to issue a statement saying "Hey, we are not Chechnya!"
My first reaction is to whinge about the state of education but I then I remember that there was plenty of ignorance when I was going to school but It seemed like people knew they were ignorant. It's the sheer confidence that people show in their uneducated or misinformed opinions that galls. Information is at one's finger tips but we seem to lazy or sure of ourselves to take a moment and check.
Why can't the USA be more like Italy - and elect porn stars instead of buffoons.
"I can't wait to write a defense of the drone strike that takes out Julian Assange."
—Time reporter Michael Grunwald, in a tweet
Time for a bump up.Quote"I can't wait to write a defense of the drone strike that takes out Julian Assange."
—Time reporter Michael Grunwald, in a tweet
What they gunna do? Wait for him to appear on the balcony of the Ecuadorean Embassy in the middle of London?
When the Christmas Island tourism board decided to promote its lovely juvenile boobies, it never thought it would have Facebook's pervert police on its case.http://www.watoday.com.au/travel/travel-news/how-abbotts-booby-upset-facebook-20130904-2t5al.html (http://www.watoday.com.au/travel/travel-news/how-abbotts-booby-upset-facebook-20130904-2t5al.html)
Great Tits Built to Survive Climate Change?http://news.discovery.com/animals/great-tits-built-to-survive-climate-change-130709.htm (http://news.discovery.com/animals/great-tits-built-to-survive-climate-change-130709.htm)
One Republican state legislator in Florida doesn't think 2016 presidential candidate Donald Trump is a legitimate GOP candidate and has stated more than once that Trump is a "phantom candidate." Rep. Carlos Curbelo (R-Miami) explained his reasoning by claiming Trump possibly could be a plot devised by the Democrats to make the GOP look bad.
BLITZER: Do you identify more as a Democrat or Republican?
TRUMP: Well, you'd be shocked if I said that in many cases I probably identify more as Democrat. And I think you'd probably be shocked...
BLITZER: On social issues?
TRUMP: You know, it's interesting, I've been now around long -- you know, I think of myself as a young guy, but I'm not so young anymore. And I've been around for a long time. And it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...