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Title: It's not easy being green. Some even say it's impossible, but . . .
Post by: Escaped Lunatic on May 31, 2018, 12:13:53 PM
It's not easy being green.  Some even say it's impossible, but . . .

I DID IT!

The call came today.  I am now a

PERMANENT RESIDENT of the PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA

and I have a card to prove it!

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Lots more details to follow, along with some pics.
Title: Re: It's not easy being green. Some even say it's impossible, but . . .
Post by: Calach Pfeffer on May 31, 2018, 03:27:40 PM
I am alarmed and impressed, laobaixing.

Congratulations on getting what you wanted. I've been following along the story and had no idea it could really come true.  agagagagag


Are you still American?
Title: Re: It's not easy being green. Some even say it's impossible, but . . .
Post by: Granny Mae on May 31, 2018, 09:37:56 PM
Good one EL! agagagagag Glad things worked out for you. bfbfbfbfbf
Title: Re: It's not easy being green. Some even say it's impossible, but . . .
Post by: Tree on June 01, 2018, 02:11:52 AM
Grats man!
Title: Re: It's not easy being green. Some even say it's impossible, but . . .
Post by: Escaped Lunatic on June 01, 2018, 02:24:56 AM
After waiting 790 days, it still feels like a dream.

Yes, I'm still American, but I have been told that having a greencard for 1 year is the proof needed that I've indeed "settled down" in China.  At that point, I'm supposed to be eligible to apply for citizenship.


The call came in at about 4:20 on Thursday afternoon.  My wife told them we would pick it up tomorrow.  As soon as she told me what the call was, I said "Let's go!", since the Bureau of Naughty Foreigner Control is open until 5:30.

Pickup was from the same desk where I applied for it (same place as where I've been applying for annual res permit renewals).  There was one minor problem.  They didn't have the card.  After some discussion and a couple of phone calls, the guy who took my application on April 1, 2016 emerged with an envelope.

I'm sad to report that it's not actually green.  The newest ones have the same color scheme as the current Chinese national ID cards.  One side does have a greenish tinge to it if you hold the card at the correct angle, but my wife's ID card does the same thing.  Think I'll find a green tinted slip cover to put it into. ahahahahah

Then came paying the final fee.  It was 300 RMB.  For res permits there's a bar code and you pay downstairs with a bank card.  This puts the payment into the computer system.  For some reason, the payment took a QR code for online payments via smartphone.  Since my phone is so dumb it qualifies as mentally disabled, my wife paid.  Just to make it more complicated, there was some sort of registration needed on her phone so she could display the receipt.  This allowed for them to use a phone to take a photo of the receipt on her phone.  I thinks the upgraded payment system still needs a little work. ahahahahah

So, here I am getting my green card from the same officer who took my application. agagagagag

Title: Re: It's not easy being green. Some even say it's impossible, but . . .
Post by: Granny Mae on June 01, 2018, 09:33:59 PM
Nice photo EL! bfbfbfbfbf
Title: Re: It's not easy being green. Some even say it's impossible, but . . .
Post by: Nolefan on June 03, 2018, 09:01:58 AM
congrats... long time coming..

this round of baijiu is on you
Title: Re: It's not easy being green. Some even say it's impossible, but . . .
Post by: AMonk on June 04, 2018, 12:44:14 AM
Congratulations!!!!! Couldn't happen to a nicer person.
Title: Re: It's not easy being green. Some even say it's impossible, but . . .
Post by: Escaped Lunatic on June 04, 2018, 05:21:21 AM
I didn't get an instruction guide with it, so no details of my new superpowers.  Guess I should go to a bamboo forest with my card and see if the gravity seems reduced. ahahahahah

I'm hoping to schedule a trip to the provincial Bureau of Naughty Foreigner Control in GZ in a few months.  I've got about a million questions and would also love to get some more statistics on how many people apply and how many get accepted.  What I see in online articles on the subject is wildly contradictory.  The writers also frequently don't seem to get the differences between green card, honorary citizenship, and actual citizenship, which makes them even more confusing.

Two days ago, I was PMing one of my foreign acquaintances here.  Someone told him he'd have to work for the government to get a green card.  The amount of misinformation out there is astonishing.
Title: Re: It's not easy being green. Some even say it's impossible, but . . .
Post by: Calach Pfeffer on June 04, 2018, 05:38:00 AM
What did help? Being married, owning property, not being a teacher?

Asking for a friend
Title: Re: It's not easy being green. Some even say it's impossible, but . . .
Post by: Escaped Lunatic on June 05, 2018, 06:03:03 AM
To the best of my knowledge, there are 3 ways to qualify.

1.  Invest lots of money.  That's out of my price range.

2.  Contribute to Chinese society.  This works for some scientists, celebrities, artists, and athletes.  I don't think my charity work or my utterly amazing skill at not crashing dragon boats too badly (7 years with no deaths yet!) quite qualifies me in this category.  Maybe getting a Snoopy "Joe Cool" t-shirt would help. ababababab

3.  Survive 5 years of marriage to a Chinese person.  This is the route I took.

I had to keep my time outside of China each year to less than 90 days.  I think the most I've been out in any one year since moving here was a bit less than 60 days.  They looked at every stamp in my passport, asked if being born to American parents in Germany meant I was also German (I checked the German citizenship regulations - I'm not) and even asked me about my Indian tourist visa.

Other requirements depend on the city you're in.  I had to have a bank account with a minimum amount of funds in it frozen for 6 months.  I think they did ask if I owned a place.  My wife and I do have an apartment which is in both of our names.  Having a job was also asked about.  I guess "house spouses" don't have a high acceptance rate compared to employed people.  I think all of this comes down to "is it worth keeping this person around or are we adding a potential burden to Chinese society?"

Title: Re: It's not easy being green. Some even say it's impossible, but . . .
Post by: BrandeX on June 05, 2018, 06:38:55 AM
Were you on a work permit at the time for proof of employment?
Title: Re: It's not easy being green. Some even say it's impossible, but . . .
Post by: Escaped Lunatic on June 06, 2018, 12:03:50 AM
I was on an "Alien Employment Permit xxxxxxxxxx" at the time of application.  I'm pretty sure a copy of that was thrown in with everything else.  I just changed over to the new work permit card system a few months ago.
Title: Re: It's not easy being green. Some even say it's impossible, but . . .
Post by: Escaped Lunatic on June 13, 2018, 12:31:51 AM
Oh wow.  That interview went well.

http://m.mp.oeeee.com/a/BAAFRD00002018061184673.html

Translation software does bad things to it, but the pics are nice. agagagagag
Title: Re: It's not easy being green. Some even say it's impossible, but . . .
Post by: El Macho on July 14, 2018, 03:52:08 AM
Congratulations!

I’m really happy for you! I know how long you’ve wanted and waited for this. Looking forward to hearing how your first border entry goes with your new green card! agagagagag agagagagag
Title: Re: It's not easy being green. Some even say it's impossible, but . . .
Post by: Escaped Lunatic on July 24, 2018, 03:35:45 AM
Tested it out for the first time on Sunday.  The immigration officer seemed a little surprised, but she appeared to have been trained to deal with greencards.
Title: Re: It's not easy being green. Some even say it's impossible, but . . .
Post by: Nolefan on July 26, 2018, 08:22:18 AM
nice.. in Beijing, I know a few folks who have gone green and they're still having issues using it for daily stuff as most gov't employees have had monkey training.