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The Bar Room => The BS-Wrestling Pit => Topic started by: Day Dreamer on February 01, 2014, 06:44:20 PM
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Okay, the Winter Olympics are about to start. I love both Olympic Games and I'm looking forward to this one. Hopefully the security issue won't be one. In Vancouver, Canada came away with top billing at 14 gold medals. Of course one of the two profile events, men's hockey. And what a great game it was too, regardless of winner.
How is your country going to do and how much do you care. Please don't make this into a political debate or argue about pros versus amateurs, leave that for another place and time
In 2010, Russia didn't do as well as they expected. Hope they have a good showing in front of the locals
USA will be tough to beat across the board, they field strong teams in every discipline.
S Korea and Netherlands will get their haul in short and long speed skating respectively
Except for a few events, China's team will be middle of the pack. Love their woman's curling team (coached by a Canuck)
What says you
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Have they actually got the snow delivered there yet? Australia is usually at the Winter Olympics as part of the clown show at half-time, but now they have all these new-fangled snow-boards and stuff, we have a chance at winning something. Don't forget, of course, we do have a speed-skating GOLD MEDAL! Remember the great performance of Stephen Bradbury at Salt Lake City in 2002?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jagh3l5lMvY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jagh3l5lMvY)
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New Zealand is a sporting, and we have heaps of mountains and snow, but we never really feature at the Winter Olympics.
I checked out some news sites and it seems that Sochi may give NZ its best chance for a medal since 1992. In that year Annelise Coberger won a silver. It is the only medal NZ has won at a Winter Olympics while we have collected 103 at Summer Olympics.
Apart from speed skating, curling is one sport I like watching on TV. I love watching the Chinese women's curling team. They have a true team approach to everything and never falter under pressure during competition.
PS New Zealand's hopes for a medal seem to rest on new events, notably snowboarding. Medals for these events are decided by judges, rather than time or distance, so winning a medal is seen as akin to winning a lottery
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The Winter Olympics is a hockey tournament.
I've heard there are a few other things but they don't matter.
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ESPN has a nice little feature with pics. Wish more countries would do this
http://espn.go.com/espnw/news-commentary/olympics/timeline/all
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Reporters already trashing Sochi.
http://sports.yahoo.com/photos/quirks-of-sochi-construction-1391548019-slideshow/
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What's the channel for women's nude figure skating? afafafafaf
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CCTV 5+ will be carrying loads of stuff including the only sport that matters: HOCKEY bmbmbmbmbm bmbmbmbmbm bmbmbmbmbm
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If you don't think the winter Olympics are great (or you need an appetiser), you should check out BBC's Winter Olympics memorable Moments.
http://www.bt-chat.com/download.php?id=185654
Unlike most of these type of things, it doesn't have some gormless tosser trying to be witty between clips. It's just the moments with the original commentary or context.
I certainly didn't know about all of these, and it covers the spectrum of events.
Don't be put off by the domestic bias to start with which is the entire dance programme by Torvill and Dean. After that it's nearly all different countries. Just four Brit items (including T+D).
All of the rest are from other parts of the world.
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The British coverage is so negative
I know that we don't compete in the Winter Olympics and we aren't friends with Russia but it does seem a bit overboard
I love the slalom and that crazy sport where they get on a little trolley and go head first down a long tunnel, I think at the last olympics we had a guy who got a medal in suicide trolley
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That's bobsled
And how hard can it be if the Jamaicans can qualify. Like, how much snow falls on that Caribbean island?
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CCTV 5+ will be carrying loads of stuff including the only sport that matters: HOCKEY bmbmbmbmbm bmbmbmbmbm bmbmbmbmbm
There are 4 legitimate contenders for the gold: Canada (of course), the US, Russia and Sweden as the dark horse. It's hard to believe one of these teams won't win a medal of any kind in hockey.
As for the dames, only 2 teams of note, US and Canuckistan. We're on a roll but it'll be damn close and good. Last time they played, the girls broke out in an all out brawl. There's lots and lots of respect for each other. And even more hatred
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That's bobsled
And how hard can it be if the Jamaicans can qualify. Like, how much snow falls on that Caribbean island?
The Jamaican Bobsled(Bobsleigh) team has become sacrosanct in Winter Olympics lore since 1988. Don't dis them.
Plus, the Sochi Olympics open on the birthday of Bob Marley. A good omen?
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That's bobsled
And how hard can it be if the Jamaicans can qualify. Like, how much snow falls on that Caribbean island?
Nah, bobsled they are in a team and in a sled, there's one where it's just one person going head first
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That's bobsled
And how hard can it be if the Jamaicans can qualify. Like, how much snow falls on that Caribbean island?
Nah, bobsled they are in a team and in a sled, there's one where it's just one person going head first
The luge is when you go down the hill feet first on your 'sled', and is either singles or doubles, which perhaps is the most homo-erotic event in world athletics. I mean, there's a 2 man bobsled as well, but then you're sitting on a seat, rather than the other person's lap. The skeleton is where you go head first.
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The British coverage is so negative
I know that we don't compete in the Winter Olympics and we aren't friends with Russia but it does seem a bit overboard
I love the slalom and that crazy sport where they get on a little trolley and go head first down a long tunnel, I think at the last olympics we had a guy who got a medal in suicide trolley
Nah, bobsled they are in a team and in a sled, there's one where it's just one person going head first
You said trolley - that's a bobsled. You never mentioned one person going down head first
Luge and skeleton are what Just Like Mr Benn described above
bibibibibi
Choose you words better. If you don't know what it is, I have an idea - look it up
/sheesh
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http://deadspin.com/the-dogs-of-sochi-1516493208
Olympic coverage drinking game: see a dog, take a shot.
Dog in the Opening Ceremony? Two shots.
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http://deadspin.com/the-dogs-of-sochi-1516493208
Olympic coverage drinking game: see a dog, take a shot.
Dog in the Opening Ceremony? Two shots.
If you notice, the dogs did not appear dangerous or in danger. They also seemed healthy. So listen Mr. Micheal Vick, if you try anything, I'll shoot you
BTW, I recall not seeing any stray animals in Beijing during the '08 games. And the restaurants had plenty of meat
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There were lots of soup places next to laundry shops too :wtf:
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There are 4 legitimate contenders for the gold: Canada (of course), the US, Russia and Sweden as the dark horse. It's hard to believe one of these teams won't win a medal of any kind in hockey.
Team Sweden just took a hit, Henrik Sedin is out
Martin St. Louis is going in place of Steven Stamkos, not a bad replacement for Canada
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One of the the Team China girl's short track relay team skaters was a classmate with my g/f. Same grade, different class. She also went to Vancouver 4 years ago
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Checking out the Canada - Finland girl's hockey game. The Canucks received a penalty in the 2nd period for "too many men on the ice"! mmmmmmmmmm
Did I mention it was girl's hockey? Any men on the ice is too many.
Canada
Girls
Hockey
the best things in life akakakakak
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Germany with a commanding lead at 6 gold medals.
Canada second with 4 gold (4 silver)
Norway - 4 gold, 3 silver
Netherlands - 4 gold, 2 silver
US - 3 and 1
The overall winner looks to need close to 20 (probably 18 golds) Canada had 15 in 2010 but there were fewer events. Also, the top 5 teams seem to be distancing themselves from the pack
As for the woman's US-Canada game - awesome! The gold medal game will be another highlight reel. As of late, the Canadian girls have the edge, but that means zero right now. Its like a series of coin flips, the last event does not determine the next one. The only thing we know is that its going to be rough, tough and close
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Loved the Canada USA game last night and not just for the final score. It was great hockey and we loved watching it.
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Very good hockey.
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is there any hockey on CCTV5? My wife has been watching almost non-stop and hasn't seen any. I've all but given up.
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is there any hockey on CCTV5? My wife has been watching almost non-stop and hasn't seen any. I've all but given up.
Since China doesn't field a team, they won't show it. They might present the gold medal game, but we must wait until then to see. Since both male and female curling teams are doing well, we see it non-stop. I guess every country for the most part wants to showcase their own and I'm okay with that. But I wish CCTV5 would also show a medalling event regardless of country as opposed to the 8th showing of a Chinese girl finishing 12th. They're not too bad at this because there has been few Chinese successes this year. And most people here have little understanding of so many events.
We watched the debacle last night in the short track race where the Brit took out the other two top girls. The Chinese girl was so far behind, she wasn't affected by the landslide of bodies. She skated around and easily won the gold. Now, that's not her fault and she won, good for her. It's part of the game and you accept what happens good or bad. However, the Chinese announcers not once said anything in relation to sportsmanship like "I'm glad we won, but, it would have been better . . . " or "It's too bad about the other three . . . "
Not a peep
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I get a kick out of ESPN's medal table. Only the US count total medals to determine the ranking. The IOC and every other NOC count differently: Start with the number of golds. Germany is first right now as the only team with 7, three more than anyone else. There are 4 countries tied with 4 golds, so the next criteria is the silver. Canada has 4, whereas Norway and Netherlands have 3 each and the US with 2. Norway has 1 more bronze, so they take third followed by the Dutch, then USA.
Rightly or wrongly, thats's how they have chosen to do it and its been that way since 776 BC. Okay, not that long, but since the beginning of the modern games. Its best or easier if the team with the most gold also have the highest aggregate. In 2008, both China and America claimed victory. China had the edge in gold, 50-36 and the Americans took the total, 110-100. It would have been more fun if it was the other way around. I wonder which of the two would admit the other was the top team. (my guess is probably the 'mercans, but we'll never know)
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is there any hockey on CCTV5? My wife has been watching almost non-stop and hasn't seen any. I've all but given up.
CCTV 5 showed the gold medal men's game last year. This we got an upgraded HD package which includes CCTV 5+HD.
They show 2-3 NHL games a week plus I've watched several games from Sochi.
Will cost us an extra 780 RMB per year but TOTALLY worth it.
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They are streaming the games live on their website
http://2014sochi.cntv.cn
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It isn't much fun to watch but the cross country event is so awesome and such a testament to why men are brilliant and stupid at the same time. crossing miles of frozen countryside to shoot at stuff for NO REASON AT ALL
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It isn't much fun to watch but the cross country event is so awesome and such a testament to why men are brilliant and stupid at the same time. crossing miles of frozen countryside to shoot at stuff for NO REASON AT ALL
Historically, that's the way it was done many years ago hunting for food. Originally they'd use bow and arrows, then moved up to guns and rifles. It's one of the few events that actually had a practical purpose other than sport
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It isn't much fun to watch but the cross country event is so awesome and such a testament to why men are brilliant and stupid at the same time. crossing miles of frozen countryside to shoot at stuff for NO REASON AT ALL
Historically, that's the way it was done many years ago hunting for food. Originally they'd use bow and arrows, then moved up to guns and rifles. It's one of the few events that actually had a practical purpose other than sport
Ah yeah I know, it just seems funny to me...
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Then why is it stupid?
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Sadly those evil no-goodniks from Switzerland snuck in to second
At least it wasn't the (What's the plural of Belgian?) Belgiums, Belgiae kkkkkkkkkk
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Awesome! We were watching the woman's ski jumping. Most did a double flip with a double twist - cool. Then the Brazilian lady was up. She did a simple back flip and landed it. She was so happy, she burst into tears. Remnants of Eddy the Eagle. I was telling the g/f that Brazil is great for many things, winter sports is quite low on the list.
At the other end of the spectrum, the men's figure skating was filled with flaws. Yea, like I'm critiquing as if I'm an expert. What these guys do is incredible. If I tried, I'd be in traction for years. But the top 3 men were supposed to be the world's best. Hardly a climactic performance. With Spain almost winning a medal, that would have been their first in this event
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Something is amiss, where's Germany? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Winter_Olympics_medal_table
Country G S B Total
1 United States (USA) 8 3 7 18
2 Switzerland (SUI) 5 1 1 7
3 Canada (CAN) 4 5 2 11
6 Netherlands (NED) 4 3 5 12
4 Norway (NOR) 4 3 6 13
7 Belarus (BLR) 3 0 1 4
8 Russia (RUS)* 2 5 5 12
9 China (CHN) 2 2 0 4
5 Athletes from Kuwait
(IOC) 2 1 1 4
10 France (FRA) 2 0 2 4
11 Poland (POL) 2 0 0 2
12 Austria (AUT) 1 4 0 5
13 Japan (JPN) 1 2 1 4
14 Slovenia (SLO) 1 1 2 4
15 Great Britain (GBR) 1 0 1 2
17 Slovakia (SVK) 1 0 0 1
15 South Korea (KOR) 1 0 1 2
18 Sweden (SWE) 0 5 2 7
20 Czech Rep (CZE) 0 2 1 3
19 Italy (ITA) 0 2 2 4
21 Australia (AUS) 0 1 1 2
22 Croatia (CRO) 0 1 0 1
22 Finland (FIN) 0 1 0 1
25 Kazakhstan (KAZ) 0 0 1 1
24 Latvia (LAT) 0 0 2 2
25 Ukraine (UKR) 0 0 1 1
Total 45 43 44 132
Nevermind, fixed mmmmmmmmmm
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Two good hockey games on live now on cctv internet at the URL 'noles posted posted above:
Men's - US vs. Russia scoreless after the first period.
Women's Switzerland 1: Russia 0 also after the first period.
The best part, no commentary on either feed. I guess CCTV doesn't have enough hockey conversive announcers and they save the one or two they have for when the Chinese teams are playing.
Just raw action (and a lot of it) in the US-RUS match.
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I was navigating through the sight, this is what they said about hockey:
The origins of ice hockey are unclear, but it is widely accepted that the British are responsible for bringing ice hockey to North America
http://sports.cntv.cn/2013/12/19/ARTI1387418254756776.shtml
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Well, they could have just used the CHINESE version of Wikipedia to learn the facts; ahahahahah
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/冰球 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/冰球)
Stick that in your translator and smoke it, CCTV.
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USA 1 - RUS 1 at the end of 2.
USA comes out a man short in the 3rd period due to a last second hooking penalty.
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Just for fun:
North America: 26 total medals
South America: zero
Africa: same
Oceania: 2
Asia: 13
Europe: all the rest - over 100
With a name like "Alpine" skiing, you can see why Europe does well. And if they ever take long track speed skating out, the Dutch wouldn't even bother to send a team over.
As long as we win the 4 medals that count: Men's and women's hockey and curling
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Shocker in hockey - Finland upset host Russia 3-1. Don't let the fourth and and fifth place seeding fool you; Russia was the better team. For some reason, they just couldn't put it together. Might have been the pressure.
And please stop with the speed skating. It's the only event the Dutch can win - and the bastards are too. 20 medals for 3rd overall in aggregate and all of them in one discipline. Somebody corrode their skates. (maybe not, aren't they made from clogs?)
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Russia was not the better team. Better names perhaps but not the better the team this whole tournament. They played well against the US especially in the first period but that aside, it seemed just like one on one hockey from them every time up the ice.
Canada has forgotten how to score. They'd better remember fast otherwise the US will embarrass them in the semis.
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Canada WON GOLD against the USA in the Woman's hockey today :candyraver: :dancemj: bmbmbmbmbm bmbmbmbmbm bmbmbmbmbm
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Game MVP was the post
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The women held up their end (the curlers too.) Now if the men win their golds It will be a perfect Olympics 4 for 4. None of the rest of that crap really count.
Although, I have to admit, I really did enjoy that snowboard cross. Motocross on snowboards was pretty cool.
I hate anything with judges and pirouettes.
2 man luge looks exactly what it sounds like.
Canada will never be any good at skeleton because anybody that insane will already be playing goal in hockey.
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congrats to the first ladies of hockey! They earned their gold. Yes, DD, they got that lucky post. Also a chintzy penalty call, but then the trip on Wickenhieser became a 2 minute pp instead of a penalty shot, so I guess the bounces more or less bounced out. A classic final game for Wickenheiser, Ouellette and Hefford, who are all retiring as champions.
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Getting there. Men's curlers picked up the gold and men's hockey got rid of those pesky Americans to play Sweden in the final.
Interesting article (http://espn.go.com/olympics/winter/2014/speedskating/story/_/id/10498174/2014-sochi-olympics-dutch-coach-jillert-anema-says-us-focus-more-speedskating-not-football) about how the Dutch speed skating coach (unbelievably dominant) would improve the American team.
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Interesting article (http://espn.go.com/olympics/winter/2014/speedskating/story/_/id/10498174/2014-sochi-olympics-dutch-coach-jillert-anema-says-us-focus-more-speedskating-not-football) about how the Dutch speed skating coach (unbelievably dominant) would improve the American team.
There's a guy who should STFU. No doubt the Dutch are incredibly dominant in speed skating (jealousy talking, damn, they make it look easy) and this year the US has been almost shut out. But if they ever cut some of those races or increase other events, Netherlands wouldn't stand so tall. One thing I admire about certain teams is their ability to field across the board competitors. Jamaica scores well in the Summer Games with nothing outside of sprints. It's not the countries fault that they are the best at a discipline, good on ya. When US, Canada, Russia, etc win medals all over the place, it shows how vibrant these sports are. (for the most part) A gold in 50 metre pistol shooting is worth the same in Men's 100 metre dash. True, some events are more marquee than others: basketball, hockey, figure skating and 100m dash. This doesn't diminish the others.
I don't recall an American coach berating the Netherlands team in London for doing so badly. Nor did he say the States did well because they play American football. Dear Mr Dutch coach, mind your own *%#$@ business. And I'm not even American
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2 man luge looks exactly what it sounds like.
Canada will never be any good at skeleton because anybody that insane will already be playing goal in hockey.
They could combine the men's luge with female skeleton afafafafaf
What about 4 person nude mixed bobsled bhbhbhbhbh
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What about 4 person nude mixed bobsled
might be fun for some; but while some are built for speed, others are built for comfort
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What about 4 person nude mixed bobsled
might be fun for some; but while some are built for speed, others are built for comfort
In that case, we'll need judging with style points
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Canadian refs for the Canadian - Swedish hockey final.
I agree with Forsberg "What a f___ing joke!" (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=444453)
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Canadian refs for the Canadian - Swedish hockey final.
I agree with Forsberg "What a f___ing joke!" (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=444453)
I like it. What's the big deal? At least half the Swede team plays in the NHL and those who don't, probably want to.
Years ago when Canada started attending major hockey tournaments, we got royally screwed with the European refs. A simple body check was called a penalty for roughing. We were called dirty. It's a different style, NHL is a more physical game than what th other teams played. We beat them when it was ballerina style, let them beat us now. They want to play in North America, earn it
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It's not just a style of play issue. The could have used 3 American refs. It's just not that difficult to have refs that are not from either country and it takes the chance of favoritism off the whining list.
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Conratulations go to Canada for winning the
icehockey thingy.
A New Zealand commentator said that he once went to a fight and a game of ice hockey broke out. agagagagag
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x, that was an old joke when
George I was a kid
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It's not just a style of play issue. The could have used 3 American refs. It's just not that difficult to have refs that are not from either country and it takes the chance of favoritism off the whining list.
I can understand that but I think everyone agrees that for the most prestigious event you want the best there. The Canadian refs are probably the best equipped to handle the (majority of) NHL players in the gold medal game. I really doubt the Swedes would have had any real issue. In hindsight we can also say that the zebras had zero effect on the outcome. Unlike the American ref during a game years ago between the girls. He heavily favoured his home side. I wish I can remember which game it was, but it was an Olympic gold medal game.
EDITED TO ADD: The gold medal game played on February 1, 2002 was marred with controversy as referee Stacey Livingston awarded the American team with eight successive power plays
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hockey_at_the_2002_Winter_Olympics
So yes it can happen - look at the judging competitions and the corruption there. Happily, it had no effect (this time)
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Happily, it had no effect (this time)
my thinking as well. The Canadians won by executing a team-first plan. In a way, reminiscent of the Islanders way back when. The play did get a bit chippy at times, but the refs, being NHL refs, preferred to keep their whistles in their pockets as long as things didn't get out of hand. Things didn't. The Swedes weren't intimidated by a gang of thugs; they were out hustled by a team that competed harder, backchecked tenaciously, played a disciplined game, and a goaltender who didn't cough up rebounds. They were beaten by a better team.
I have a lot of repect for Forsberg. He's not just another home-side whiner, he's more than earned respect playing the Namerican game. In this case however it just didn't matter. Next time? Well...
BTW, I was impressed by the speed and tempo of the game. After watching so many Leaf games on HNIC, I didn't know hockey players could skate so fast. Did we steal some of those Dutch speed skaters?
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Watching the Paralympics sledge hockey game between Canada and Norway. Captivating and I don't mean that it's a freak show, these guys are really good.
One of the commentators made me larf. The Canucks are the better team (natch) and they've been putting lots of pressure of the Norwegian goalie. The guy said, "The Norwegian goalie is going to have to stand on his head to stop the Canadian goal scorers. But then again, it's really hard to stand on your head when you're in a sledge!"