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FEA
« on: May 22, 2009, 02:15:32 PM »
Hey, not sure what this means, but something interesting has been happening lately.

The local Foreign Affairs whatever sends emails to the registered foreign teachers with info. NOt much or often, but some. Like, today, the OFFICIAL list of organizations that can legally employ foreigners in this province. I have seen lists before, but not one that is official if you know what I mean.

Anyone else get this? Could be a useful database if we had it for the more popular provinces.
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Re: FEA
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2009, 02:21:09 PM »
I've never heard of it and I don't get emails from anybody official, either.

(I feel left out. But maybe being ignored is a good thing...)
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Re: FEA
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2009, 02:30:16 PM »
Yeah, and the official list is a LOT shorter than I thought, 133 inlcuding all schools, private and public and unis etc. My Uni is on it though, as is my last one.

The list of teachers they send the email is real short too.

Another one is that chain schools seem to have to register by province, too.

And the main corporate teaching school is NOT allowed to employ foreigners but do. Hmmm.
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Re: FEA
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2009, 06:19:05 AM »
Any chance you could post that list?

I'd kill for one of those for Suzhou.
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Re: FEA
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2009, 07:26:34 AM »
Cut and paste:

No.   Name of Orgnization   Register Number
1   Guangxi University for Nationalities   A1  4501001
2   Guangxi University   A1  4501002
3   Guangxi Normal University   A1  4501003
4   Wuzhou University   A2  4501004
5   Guilin Institute of Tourism   A2  4501005
6   Guilin University of Technology   A1  4501006
7   Guilin Medical University   A1  4501007
8   Guilin University of Electronic Technology   A1  4501008
9   Guilin Normal College   A2  4501009
10   Guangxi Broadcasting and Television University   A2  4501010
11   Guangxi University of Technology   A2  4501011
12   Liuzhou City Vocational College   A2  4501012
13   Youjiang Medical University for Nationalities   A2  4501013
14   Yulin Normal University   A2  4501014
15   Hechi University   A2  4501015
16   Guangxi Teachers Education University   A1  4501017
17   Guangxi Medical University   A1  4501018
18   Guangxi College of Education   A2  4501019
19   Guangxi Arts Institute   A1  4501020
20   Guangxi Traditional Chinese Medical University   A1  4501021
21   Hezhou University   A2  4501022
22   Guangxi University of Finance and Economics   A2  4501023
23   Guangxi International Business Vocational College   A2  4501025
24   Guangxi Economic Management Cadre College   A2  4501026
25   Liuzhou Teachers College   A2  4501027
26   Baise University   A2  4501028
27   Guangxi Provincial School of Administration   A2 4501029
28   Nanning College of Education   A2  4501030
29   Nanning Teachers College   A2  4501031
30   Guilin College of Aerospace Technology   A2  4501032
31   Liuzhou Transport Vocational & Technical College   A2  4501033
32   Guangxi Ecological Engineering Professional Technology College.   A2  4501034
33   Qinzhou College   A2  4501035
34   Guangxi Vocational and Technical College of Communications   A2  4501036
35   Guangxi Technological College of Machinery and Electricity   A2  4501037
36   Beihai Vocational College   A2  4501038
37   Guangxi Vocational& Technical College   A2  4501039
38   Liuzhou No.1 Vocational & technical School   A2  4502001
39   Liuzhou Vacational & Technical College   A2  4502003
40   Foreign Language Experimental High School of Liuzhou Prefecture   A2  4502004
41   Nanning No.3 Polytechnic High School   A2  4502005
42   Liuzhou No.2 Polytechnic High School   A2  4502006
43   Guilin Central Vocational School   A2  4502007
44   Guangxi Huaqiao College   A2  4502008
45   Nanning No. 1 Vocational & Technical School   A2 4502009
46   Guangxi Agricultural vocational & Technical College   A2  4502011
47   Nanning Vocational Technical College   A2  4502012
48   Nanning No. 6 Vocational Technical School   A2  4502013
49   Yangshuo  Vocational & Technical Secondary School   A2  4502014
50   Nanning No.2 High School   A2  4503001
51   "Liuzhou No.1 Railway Middle School


   
"   A2  4503002
52   Fangcheng Experimental High School   A2  4503003
53   Guilin No.18 Middle School   A2 4503004
54   Gongcheng Middle School   A2  4503005
55   Liuzhou No.45 Middle School   A2  4503006
56   Guilin zhongshan middle school   A2 4503007
57   Liuzhou No.1 Foreign Language Experimental High School   A2  4503008
58   Pingguo Lvcheng Middle School   A2  4503011
59   Liuzhou No.8 Middle School   A2  4503012
60   Guangxi Bobai Middle School   A2  4503014
61   Peihong Nationalities high school of Nanning   A2  4503015
62   Yizhou NO.1 Middle School   A2  4503017
63   Guilin Middle School   A2  4503018
64   Guilin Qingfeng Experimental Middle School   A2  4503019
65   Baise Middle School   A2  4503020
66   Nanning No. 33 Middle School   A2 4503021
67   Longcheng Middle school of Liuzhou   A2  4503022
68   Qinzhou No.1  Middle School   A2  4503023
69   Liuzhou No.39 Middle School   A2  4503024
70   Xingan Middle School of Guilin   A2  4503025
71   Baise Qifu High School   A2  4503026
72   Yangshuo Foreign Language Experimental Middle School   A2  4503028
73   Liuzhou No.2 Railway Middle School   A2  4503029
74   Guilin Experimental Middle School Attached to Capital Normal University   A2  4503037
75      A2  4503038
76   Liuzhou Foreign Language High School   A2  4503039
77   Longan Middle School   A2  4503040
78   Yangshuo No.2 Middle School   A2  4503041
79   Yangshuo Middle School   A2  4503042
80   Yangshuo Experimental Primary School   A2  4504001
81   Yangshuo Primary School   A2  4504002
82   Liuzhou Donghuanlu School   A2  4504004
83   Yongjiang University   A2  4511001
84   China Guangxi International Youth Exchange Institute   A2  4511002
85   Talent International College, Guangxi   A2  4511003
86   Guangxi Dongfang Foreign Language College   A2  4511005
87   Beihai College of Beihang University   A2  4511006
88   Guangxi City College   A2  4511007
89   Buckland International School   A2  4512001
90   Beihai Vocational Institute of Art and Design   A2  4512004
91   Hepu Experimental School of Foreign Language   A2 4512005
92   Guilin Zhuoyue English College   A2 4512006
93   Yulin Yingcai School   A2  4513001
94   Guangxi Nanning Foreign Language School   A2  4513002
95   Nanning Yinghua School   A2  4513003
96   Nanning Dongfang Foreign School   A2  4513004
97   Guilin Dzhi Foreign Language School   A2  4513005
98   Guilin Guanghua school   A2  4513006
99   Webster Education Institute   A2  4513008
100   Av Educational Training School   A2  4513009
101   LTC Language Training School   A2  4513010
102   Qinzhou Foreign Langnage School   A2  4513011
103   GuangXi Beihai Foreign Language School   A2  4513012
104   zhongshan Tianzhi Experimental School   A2  4513013
105   Nanning OK Foreign Language School   A2  4513014
106   Nanning Affiliated Experimental School of Peking University   A2 4513015
107   Liuzhou Napier English Training Center   A2  4513016
108   Gui Gang Qiao Nan Middle School   A2  4513019
109   Pubei Foreign Language School   A2  4513020
110   Nanning Eden English   A2  4513022
111   Treville Foreign Language School   A2  4513023
112   Nanning English First Language Training School   A2  4513024
113   Yulin Golden Tower Foreign Language School   A2  4513025
114   Gui Lin YinZhifu Language  Teaching Center   A2  4513027
115   Guilin Linguaphone Foreign Language Training School   A2  4513028
116   Liuzhou City Wudre Foreign Language & Profession Training School   A2  4513029
117   Xijie Foreign Language School   A2  4513030
118   Nanning Languaphone Foreign Language Training School   A2  4513031
119   Guilin Nihao Korean Language School   A2  4513032
120   Guilin Modern International Language Training School   A2  4513033
121   Guilin Dongfang Foreign Language School   A2  4513034
122   Nanning Global IELTS Training School   A2  4513035
123   Omeida Language College   A2  4513036
124   Beihai English training School On The Air    A2  4513037
125   Beihai Jingdu English Training Center   A2  4513038
126   Yangshuo Shanshui Foreign Language School   A2  4513039
127   Guilin Five Loaves Two Fish Foreign Language School   A2  4513040
128   China Guangxi International Youth Exchange Institute   A2  4514001
129   Eastern International Kindergarten   A2  4515001
130   Eastern International DongGe Kindergarten   A2  4515002
131   Guilin Inter-Foreign Language Training School   A2  4530002
132   Nanning Vocational Education Center   A2  4530003
133   LiuzhouWebster Foreign Language Training Center   A2  4530004
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Re: FEA
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2009, 07:28:18 AM »
I think it is province by province. They just also sent me the English versions of the documents for changing jobs etc.
Interesting.

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Re: FEA
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2009, 10:00:46 AM »
Here's an online vrsion of what Mr. N posted. Although this one may be dated, it matches up with a lot of what he posted (vis-a-vis Certificate Numbers, etc.). Also, this one is searchable by province.
http://www.anesl.com/schools/info.asp
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Re: FEA
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2009, 04:08:28 PM »
Wow, a nice find...thanks, guys.
The link should probably be in the Links pages, if we can sufficiently warn people away from the recruitment list... oooooooooo

I was interested to note that Jiangsu Province has a "Sino-China High School", which I guess must bring together the best of both China and, uh,....China... mmmmmmmmmm bibibibibi
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Re: FEA
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2009, 06:24:04 PM »
Wow, a nice find...thanks, guys.
The link should probably be in the Links pages, if we can sufficiently warn people away from the recruitment list... oooooooooo

The Jobs link at that site (Angelina's) is the best collection of live jobs that I've seen. There is some connection between that site and SAFEA, or so I've heard.

I saw a job posted there for a school that I know is looking right now because the FAO called me last week to ask if I knew anyone looking for a job. I also know that the school is too cheap to pay for ads. I'm sure they notified SAFEA they were looking, and their information ended up on that job list.

I went through the list of jobs in my city and was able to recognize or figure out which schools they were even though none of them were named directly. The problem of course is all jobs listed there are referenced through the recruiter. But for most of the schools, the "introduction to the school" is lifted directly from the schools' own websites. The specific name of the school is deleted, but something like a Provincial Science and Technology Institute is looking for...." Just substitute the name of the province, get on the Google, and find the school's website. Then contact them directly. Or take a "unique" piece of Chinglish from the Intro, pop it into Google, and you'll probably find the page on the school's own website.

A site like ChinaTEFL.com is good in that it gives you the contact information so you can contact the school directly. The problem is that those ads are often out-of-date. Angelina's seems to have the most current live jobs. You just have to do a little work to suss out the school from the info provided. Then contact them directly.

Always strive to contact the schools directly rather than go through a recruiter.
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Re: FEA
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2009, 09:55:29 AM »
The Jobs link at that site (Angelina's) is the best collection of live jobs that I've seen.

I heartily concur. I had the same thought when I was looking it over. It's the only recruiter list I've ever seen that had multiple jobs paying over 10K.
And you're dead-on about the approach to take...use their list to suss out the advertiser and then contact them directly. NEVER take a job through a recruiter. ANY recruiter. asasasasas
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Re: FEA
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2009, 08:10:32 AM »
Angelina's seems to have the most current live jobs. You just have to do a little work to suss out the school from the info provided. Then contact them directly.

Always strive to contact the schools directly rather than go through a recruiter.

That's right - I used A-esl for a while, when I was a greenie.........got hit on by thousands of recruiters though........it's ok if you ignore the ads and just contact the schools/Uni's directly - the recruiters skim at least 1-2k from the usual offered salaries (I was approached by an Oz recruiter there - 8000 rmb, 24 hrs/wk, as a "contracter".........contacted the Uni - 12000, accom allowance, utilites etc.........nice scam for the recruiters!)
So - it pays to do your homework - but, some nice offers on Angelina's ESL if you want to put the time in.
I was tempted....... ..but lured to Lin'an - and happy! Very happy. Good gig, except tis a hell of a trek to Hangzhou to buy cheez!!!!
Vacancies here, by the way.......contact either myself or ETR for further info!
(no recruiters involved - though a cold beer and a hunk of aged cheddar would be appreciated!!).