This is my final post on the subject:
Basing your beliefs on polls, other people's limited experiences, or stereotypes and prejudices (which seems prevalent here) is dishonest and lazy--no mater how many unreliable sources you combine data from, you will always have unreliable data.
(reminds me of a Dennis Miller joke about getting a two-for-one deal on short-sleeve suits--two of shit is still shit)
I find it scary that teachers and liberals are so close minded.
There is only one person here that even attempted to look at the data objectively and she was all but ignored, and with the exception of LE and TLD a lot of the replies were snide, insulting, ignorant, and highly pointed.
Frankly I am more than a little surprised at the lack of tact here from some of the more established members.
Now I fully understand why that Asian girl quit coming here--what was her name... the one that said Denesh D'souza was her hero. My God, I can just imagine what the horrified reactions were like from the people that have posted in this thread...
If asked if they believe in the Creation story of Genesis, most would also say "yes". Hence, the huge industry for psychologists.
My demand for a perspective that is intellectually honest and respectful must be just a tad more than you are capable of providing this conversation. Your comments, sir, and the comments of others like you are the very reason these debates spiral into vitriolic and reactionary speech.
EDIT: actually, now that I re-read the entire thread I see that it was just three or four people that were being close-minded and hurtful. My apologies to anyone that may have felt slighted by that.