Raoul's China Saloon (V5.0) Beta
The Bar Room => The BS-Wrestling Pit => Topic started by: Calach Pfeffer on April 23, 2012, 03:51:40 AM
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...if you don't like it [wherever]."
And I suppose it's true. (Except for those of us who may, not pointing fingers, be on the run from the law--let's just assume for the moment that we are all at least thus far undetected in our various TOTALLY LEGITIMATE!!! peccadilloes and could if we liked totally go back to the sunniest of sunny shores from whence we came.)
But...
just how acritical is one supposed to be?
I think it might be easier to draw the line rather on just how disinterested are you supposed not to be? If you're genuinely not interested in whatever's here and do for the most part complain only of how it isn't what you grew up with, then perhaps you could start looking into the relevant statutes of limitations and maybe consider going home. But even then I'm not sure. That might turf quite a lot of people out of even the different suburbs they moved to let alone the different countries.
*isn't really sure why "you could go home" rubs the wrong way, maybe it's just the grammar*
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When ever this topic comes up in what ever form, I can't help but wonder why SO MANY Asian folk are leaving their country of origin? bibibibibi
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You don't have to go home if you hate it there, a holiday could be fun.
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It's a characteristic of emerging markets/economies/countries, that people leave. Parts of the population score big on the developments at home, become risk averse, take off for developed countries. Meanwhile, foreigners sit around urging one another to believe we are all sucking only one half of the ass so we ought to love it?
But just as their are two cheeks to every ass, there are two aspects to every criticism, one go homeish, one constructive. And since when has investing some years in a country and making a determination about some of its conditions, either local or national, been wholly illegitimate?
Ladies and Gentlemen, the more you move to forgive the poor yellow people their inadequacies, the more you cast yourself as visiting imperialist. Get out that list of bitchings now or risk having to get out of the country yourself when modernity overruns your safari-suited, villa-owning, small girl touching retirement plans! Or go to Thailand. They still love that stuff there.
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Some people do overdo it, I like a moan about China sometimes and I think every time I go out on my bike or to the supermarket I fantasise about living back in Europe where people act like they are aware of other people they are sharing the city with, but some people just fill every lull in conversation with moaning about China, I used to know plenty of people back in England who would do the same about England, it's nothing to do with where they are it's just how they make conversation. Football, music, conspiracy theories, even TV shows is more interesting than repeating the same conversation again and again about China
I really should use more full stops
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You know where they have more full stops? ANYWHERE BUT HERE!
CHINESE WOULDNT EVEN HAVE FULL STOPS IF IT WEREN'T FOR US!!!!
YOU CAN GO HOME IF YOU WANT FULL STOPS!!!
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Some people are here for the short run, some are here longer term, and a few of use are lifers.
If you've ever lived in 2 places, it's easy to complain about something the place you are in does that's not quite as good as the place you were in. If your current locale is better overall, then stay. If you hate it or can't handle it where you are, then seek greener pastures back where you came from or head off somewhere else and give it a try.
Either way, it's OK. Not everyone will be happy living in one place. Do what suits you best.
Pay attention to yourself. I've seen people complain about little things while they are very happy overall. I've also seen people claim to be happy while complaining with a level of bitterness that shows their claimed happiness to be false. I've seen this in situations other than where to live (for example, marriages where someone it one step from filing for divorce, but doesn't realize it yet).
Life isn't all fun and games, but there's not a whole lot of point to living somewhere or being married to someone if the situation makes you terribly unhappy all the time.
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I wonder if it comes down to willingness and interest in causing change. I probably believe that to be part of the community is to impose conditions on it.
And I'd make a difference between "the" community and "a" community. A community is run by someone or something with a purpose, and imposing your conditions on it runs counter to already decided arrangements. It's not wholly inappropriate but nor is it likely to preserve the community's purpose. But the community... the community is the one you live in. If the best you can do in the community is cause no disturbance, then where's the living?
Maybe it's that guests thing again. I'm a guest? Pffft, I'm a foreign laborer with ambitions. I'm here for your wimmin.
(Is not really here for the wimmin. The relationship culture is worse than the eating culture.)
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Pay attention to yourself.
You hit the nail on the head with those four words EL.
If we see people chewing and talking with their mouth full of food, make sure we dont do the same. The idea of being an example to others but with a bit of humility isnt a bad thing.
We can only change how we react to the disturbance. But don't be passive about it. Its easy to moan about a thing that annoys you behind the scenes, im a believer in confronting others in a nice way to point out what is annoying you. Often you will be sruprised by the acceptance of your alternative way of acting.
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Maybe it's that guests thing again. I'm a guest? Pffft, I'm a foreign laborer with ambitions. I'm here for your wimmin.
(Is not really here for the wimmin. The relationship culture is worse than the eating culture.)
He he, you said it brother.
I ain't no guest, guests don't pay tax. I pay monthly for the right to whinge about the price of organic onions.
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I ain't no guest, guests don't pay tax. I pay monthly for the right to whinge about the price of organic onions.
The good news is that whinging about the price of organic onions isn't a deportation offense. You don't have to go home because of it.
The bad news is that it's a capital offense. Just step over there to the wall and hang on a second while the firing squad reloads their weapons. bababababa
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I ain't no guest, guests don't pay tax. I pay monthly for the right to whinge about the price of organic onions.
The bad news is that it's a capital offense. Just step over there to the wall and hang on a second while the firing squad reloads their weapons. bababababa
You know what? Fair enough, I'm pretty sure I deserve it. ahahahahah
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If you come to China you will regret it. If you don't come to China you will also regret that.
Whether you come to China or don't come to China you will regret both.
Isidnar,
You either come to China or you don't... so you can't regret both!
Regretfully,
CM
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DON'T MAKE ME REGRET THIS THREAD
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Calach, its too late. If you catch the reference to Sorehead K, you will regret it. If you fail to catch the reference, you will regret it. If you get it or don't get it, you will regret it. If you continue reading this thread, you will... If you don't... If you give a rat's tail what anyone writes next...
Fozzy, move over. Make room against that wall for the rest of us.
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Regretfully, the sum and substance of all philosophy is coming to the realization it's just mental masturbation.
I'm going home... can I?
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You can never go home.
-Moody Blues
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are we there yet?
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I'LL TURN THIS CAR RIGHT AROUND!
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It's the onions I tell you, THE ONIONS DAMNIT.
What's in order here is a good 'ole bout of group diagnosis and shock therapy.
Take a close look at these pictures, what ever you feel just let it out. This is a safe environment for you and your emotions to be free.
Government warning: THE FOLLOWING ONIONS ARE OF THE ORGANIC OR UNPRICED VARIETY ONLY. THOSE WHO SUFFER FROM A WEAK HEART, SUDDEN FURY OR SHORTNESS OF BREATH ARE ADVISED TO LOOK AWAY NOW.
Here goes:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Onion_on_White.JPG/220px-Onion_on_White.JPG)
(http://www.schreiberandsons.com/bulbonionimage.jpg)
(http://www.gazybrothersfarm.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/onion_red.jpg)
(http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/onions-3.jpg)
:wtf: Well...how do you feel?
Ok ok, calm down calm down. Look, this is what happens to them in the end:
(http://www.academiabarilla.com/imgu/recipes-steps/slicing-onions-step01.jpg)
CUT THAT LIL BASTARD GO ON!
(http://0.tqn.com/d/localfoods/1/0/Z/3/-/-/onionslice7.jpg)
THE ONLY GOOD ONIONS ARE DEAD ONIONS!
SLICE 'EM, DICE 'EM.
Session 1 concludes there.
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whoooarrrr. look'a'dem'!
I'd pay at least 75 yuan for a pair of those beauties
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Oh my God... I'm back. I'm home. All the time it was... we finally really did it. [screaming]
YOU MANIACS! YOU CUT THEM UP! OH, DAMN YOU! GODDAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!
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bkbkbkbkbk axaxaxaxax
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Did you hear the news? Mr Onion died in a knife fight.
There was a big turnip at the funeral.
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The only thing we have to regret is regret itself.
(Oh yeah, also getting caught doing all those illegal things.)
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I used to comlain about the things people here did but then I figured I would be more proactive but in an entertaining way.
I walk my dog daily and bring with me enough paper to pick up her droppings.People often notice this and tell me how good I am like it is some crazy notion, i have taken to giving out paper to other dog walkers when their dog has defecated. I just say to them i am sure they would want to throw out their dogs droppings and walk away. Funny enough every time i have done it the person has picked it up.
It used to drive e crazy on an elevator and have to listen to someone yelling on their phone or on the bus. Now if it happens I take my phone out and yel even louder than the offender till they hang up, then i just put my phone away. :lickass:
Instead of getting angry or complaining about things I figure i might as well try to change my little art of the universe I live in.
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kevcom1 ---> I totally LOVE your attitude akakakakak akakakakak akakakakak
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Another of my favorites is when waiting for the elevator and someone is standing so close to the door their nose is touching it, I will ask in my broken chinese why people do that? Are chinese elevators different than western ones? will they disappear if you dont stand as close to it as possible and try to get on even if people are trying to get off? Usually the dumb foreinger routine guilts them into standing back and hopefully remember for next time. I have learned to be patient though cause where I live they didnt have elevators 10 years ago, for many this technology is as mysterious as the magician cutting someone in half. You wouldnt get angry at someone for not understanding that trick now would you? bhbhbhbhbh
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I used to comlain about the things people here did but then I figured I would be more proactive but in an entertaining way.
I walk my dog daily and bring with me enough paper to pick up her droppings.People often notice this and tell me how good I am like it is some crazy notion, i have taken to giving out paper to other dog walkers when their dog has defecated. I just say to them i am sure they would want to throw out their dogs droppings and walk away. Funny enough every time i have done it the person has picked it up.
It used to drive e crazy on an elevator and have to listen to someone yelling on their phone or on the bus. Now if it happens I take my phone out and yel even louder than the offender till they hang up, then i just put my phone away. :lickass:
Instead of getting angry or complaining about things I figure i might as well try to change my little art of the universe I live in.
Jebus. If there was a Chinese guy in my neighbourhood back in Ireland acting like this, I think I'd find him pretty annoying.
'No, silly Irish man, you don't do it like that, you do it like this, LIKE THIS SEE?'
I doubt the general reaction would be along the lines of 'Hmmm. What an eccentric man, but lets humour him for the sake of not causing a scene or provoking an unnexpected and possibly violent response from him.'
The most likely response would probably include the title of this thread, and a few rude words thrown in to boot.
agagagagag
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I doubt the general reaction would be along the lines of 'Hmmm. What an eccentric man, but lets humour him for the sake of not causing a scene or provoking an unnexpected and possibly violent response from him.'
The usual response is i do not have to listen to a douchebag yelling on an elevator or step in dog crap,2 things that make me happy.
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I often wonder if many Asian folk have a hearing problem. Yesterday I walked behind an Asian lady
speaking yelling on her mobile as she walked down the main street of Brisbane. Naturally I pass lots of folk talking on mobiles, but one of the things I have observed is this need, for Asian folk, to yell. On my return from the movies, I went into the "den of iniquity" (Casino). Two older Asian guys were sitting behind my machine speaking talking very loudly in their own language. One guy then got on a poker machine while the other guy proceeded to issue instructions from back in the chair. He also kept jumping out of the chair and hanging over another player, to point things out to his friend. bibibibibi This was REALLY annoying, so I made it into a joke with the other ladies playing beside me. I pretended that Mr really loud voice was having sex with me and speaking to me during the process. ahahahahah uuuuuuuuuu The ladies were all sniggering quietly. bfbfbfbfbf Someone said, "I hope he doesn't speak English" and I said if he doesn't like it, he can learn to shut up or HE CAN GO HOME! agagagagag ahahahahah
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Yet another reason I love Granny Mae. akakakakak
Seriously, I do think that you may be right about hearing issues. I ask people here what certain sounds are (ones that I'm reasonably sure aren't just in my head ahahahahah), and they often can't hear them. I think it's the giant speakers blasting music in front of the phone stores that's damaged a lot of Chinese people's eardrums.
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One of my students told me that chinese people's throats are different then westerners, and it can't "self-clean" as well as ours can so that is why they spit so much.
So maybe their ears are a little bit more clogged as well. We need a "eyes, ears, throat" doctor here to settle this debate! ahahahahah
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So maybe their ears are a little bit more clogged as well.
They are... from all the dust in the air... and so are their noses... which leads to something else that's not very pleasent to watch.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xut__-uXG8U
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We need a "eyes, ears, throat" doctor here to settle this debate! ahahahahah
Perhaps we could ask Drs BecknStone? ahahahahah ahahahahah ahahahahah