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The Bar Room => The Bar (ON-TOPIC) => Topic started by: ting on April 02, 2009, 06:29:31 PM
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'Smack Your Wagging Kid Or Get A Fine'
That's what i read on some news headline, from aussie news. I can understand the violence threat, 'smack' but what is 'wagging'? is it like 'wanking'? and this activity is probably in public, otherwise who cares and no fine (monetary penalty). So, please, all the OZZY people here, help me out.
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Didn't see the headline, so I'm guessing it's about kids "wagging" school for the day. That is, "playing hookey"
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Yes, skipping school to go elsewhere...happens a lot down under!
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Yep, one of the few Aussie expressions that kids still know, along with BLUDGE and DOB.
Otherwise it's burgers, fries, REpeat, DEfence, REsearch........
Cocacolanisation is all but complete, as first George's generation, then mine, shuffle off this mortal coil.
EG One of my Brazilian delights akakakakak asked me today "What is faggot mean?"
Rather than correcting her grammar, or telling her it was a bundle of sticks to make a fire, or even indeed a kind of sausage, I told her that unfortunately, it meant "homosexual".
"Ha," she huskily snorted at her fellow Brazilian. "You are the faggot".
Then I told her it really only applied to males.
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Wagging, a time honoured tradition bfbfbfbfbf
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Wagging, a time honoured tradition bfbfbfbfbf
For a scholarly study of some Aussie Hua, click
http://www.als.asn.au/proceedings/als2003/stollznow.pdf:
We don't claim "wanker" as our own. Northern Hemisphere types have been doing this for eons.
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Good choice, Gonzo...that article is written by Karen Stillnowz, a teacher at the uni I'm doing my MA (UNE). Knows her stuff, too bfbfbfbfbf
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It's very simple. Mischievous Australian children like to have themselves hoisted from flagpoles, where they wag merrily in the breeze for hours on end. When caught, parents are expected to smack the errant children with didgeridoos. Failure to do so can evoke legal penalties, such as a monetary fine, or being forced to actually eat Vegemite (which they don't normally really eat but claim they do so other countries will think they're insane and leave them alone), or of course the time-honored and much-beloved Boot To The Bum.
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We don't claim "wanker" as our own. Northern Hemisphere types have been doing this for eons.
Interesting. I wonder how the term became so closely associated with Australians? uuuuuuuuuu
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Interesting. I wonder how the term became so closely associated with Australians?
Because we talk about USAnians a lot!!
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Hey, my Chinese students actually like Vegemite! bfbfbfbfbf
I was surprised, but I am convinced it is genuine.
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Vegemite is a 50/50 thing with the Chinese people I've given it to. Some ask me for jars, others go 'ugh'. I have gradually converted a very astute, clever USAnian to vegemite, but it wasn't nearly s easy as converting him (or anyone else!) to TimTams as the BEST chocolate biscuit in the world - NO exception! ahahahahah ahahahahah
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Well, of course!
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TimTams as the BEST chocolate biscuit in the world - NO exception! ahahahahah ahahahahah
Absolutely!
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Interesting. I wonder how the term became so closely associated with Australians?
Because we talk about USAnians a lot!!
Yes, I'm sure you do, which leads of course to its own lines of conjecture...but you don't normally do it where we can hear you...so this doesn't really explain the correlation. yyyyyyyyyy
Hey, my Chinese students actually like Vegemite!
Yes, but they also like stinky tofu, duck lungs, bitter melon, baijiu, and all manner of other non-comestibles. No points here.
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but you don't normally do it where we can hear you...
Of course! We are sensitive folks. We don't want to hurt your delicate feelings.
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Vegemite is a 50/50 thing with the Chinese people I've given it to. Some ask me for jars, others go 'ugh'. I have gradually converted a very astute, clever USAnian to vegemite, but it wasn't nearly s easy as converting him (or anyone else!) to TimTams as the BEST chocolate biscuit in the world - NO exception! ahahahahah ahahahahah
I've had one TimTam since coming to China and have to agree. akakakakak
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Bah! Chocolate Teddy Bears are the ultimate!
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George, for saying that you will recieve 100 days in solitary confinement.
Do I have any volunteers to hand out the punishment? cbcbcbcbcb uuuuuuuuuu
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I don't think Babe would agree to that type of punishment. aoaoaoaoao bibibibibi afafafafaf
Confining him to her custody, or having him receive cbcbcbcbcb cbcbcbcbcb daily would keep Babe happy and we wouldn't want her to get mad at us bibibibibi agagagagag agagagagag
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George, for saying that you will recieve 100 days in solitary confinement.
Ha! The timtam mafia strikes again!!! Yer scares me not, because I have the Teddy Bear Army to support me!
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George, if you eat the teddy bears, then your army will be involved in an uprising and overthrow the despot ruler (you) and join the tim-tams to defeat you. ahahahahah ahahahahah ahahahahah
If you don't eat the teddy bears, then obviously the tim-tams are better for eating ahahahahah ahahahahah QED bfbfbfbfbf
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if you eat the teddy bears, then your army will be involved in an uprising
bibibibibi bibibibibi
Ds, Teddy Bears know their place, and purpose. They beg to be eaten! agagagagag agagagagag
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George, if you eat them then you won't have an army agagagagag agagagagag Therefore, the tim-tams still will win ahahahahah ahahahahah
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Therefore, the tim-tams still will win
Only because a very few misguided souls eat timtams!
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TimTams are so good, they never need to BEG to be eaten. Only lesser things have to beg!
And $100 million worth of TimTams is pretty good money!! Even with all that begging the Teddy Bear army don't come close!!
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Only 1 problem with Teddy Bears....they have crumby legs!!
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Armies always did march on their stomachs - no need for legs! ahahahahah
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but you don't normally do it where we can hear you...
Of course! We are sensitive folks. We don't want to hurt your delicate feelings.
Ha. You just have a good healthy fear of a Boot To The Bum.
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Ha. You just have a good healthy fear of a Boot To The Bum.
Oh yeah? You and whose boot?? kkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkk
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who mentioned beets on burgurs? bibibibibi
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Ha. You just have a good healthy fear of a Boot To The Bum.
Oh yeah? You and whose boot?? kkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkk
The phrase is actually "You and what army?", and, well, you know... uuuuuuuuuu
(Having no Vegemite, we use other means to assert our insanity... bfbfbfbfbf )
As for beets on burgers...as I said before, THIS is why the rains stopped. ayayayayay
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The phrase is actually "You and what army?
I know that! Sheesh! A little paraphrasing doesn't hurt.
I have plans during the trip home in summer, to photograph the world's best burger, before I eat it. It will have red beet!! bhbhbhbhbh bhbhbhbhbh
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The phrase is actually "You and what army?
I know that! Sheesh! A little paraphrasing doesn't hurt.
I have plans during the trip home in summer, to photograph the world's best burger, before I eat it. It will have red beet!! bhbhbhbhbh bhbhbhbhbh
And real beef mince or even steak, possibly with bacon as well, and fried onion, cheese, lettuce - and a choice of sauces; BBQ, tomato or mango. It WON'T come in a small polystyrene environmental disaster bit of landfill, and it will be so big you won't be able to eat it in less than 10 bites.
Yep - Aussies really know how to make a decent burger!!
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Lotus, George, you sure know how to make my heart swell with pride...
Yummy.
I'm going to Zhengzhou today to buy cheese. Sadly, I doubt I will find a chippy selling proper Aussie burgers with the lot. ananananan
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Metro sells some pretty good frozen hamburger patties from Australia. They're sold in a box of 8 for about 60RMB and vacuum-packed. Each patty's about a 1/4 pound. Look in the frozen food section near the imported stuff. They have smaller, shittier plastic-wrapped Chinese beef patties in the domestic meats area. Don't be fooled. The Oz ones come in a box.
Generally, I prefer fresh beef of course, but TIC and I'd rather go with frozen beef from Australia over Chinese beef handled here, especially after one trip to the Carrefour where I saw a local pick up a package of fresh ground beef, press it, then unwrap a corner and stick her little nose in for a sniff. This during the TOS (Time of SARS).
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foot/feet... boot/beet... = Oz burgur bibibibibi
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Bejaysus! aoaoaoaoao
If you think that the foam-boxed horrors that come out of McDonald's are really representative of the Great American Hamburger, then you're suffering a serious lack of data. As I always told my Marketing classes in Shanghai, much to the consternation of my students: McDonald's is LOUSY at making hamburgers. What they're really good at is Marketing...
Real American burgers are found in the local joints...and sometimes in homes. Come to Tulsa sometime and let me take you to Goldie's, or Bill's (which sells hamburgers in various sizes up to 2 pounds of beef!), or any number of other local legends, and you will quickly learn how high the true standard really is. And just about every US city has its own local counterparts to these.
Aussie beef is good stuff, and I have no doubt that respectable hamburgers can be found there. bjbjbjbjbj
But...beets on a hamburger! aaaaaaaaaa
This sort of thing, my friends...it can only anger the gods. bibibibibi
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This sort of thing, my friends...it can only anger the gods
Not the Red Beet God! ahahahahah ahahahahah
Red Beet is a wonderful delicacy. Picked young, boiled lightly in a spicy pickley vinegar, and served cold with salad, along with sweet pickled onions!
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Raoul is right. And George is right.
Don't judge U.S. burgers by McDs. Every city has more than a few good burger places.
Never having been Downunder (there) I thought George and LE were talking about putting slices of beets on their burgers. Which sounds deranged and dirty and disrespectful of The Hamburger.
But then.........
Finally, George described it thusly: Picked young, boiled lightly in a spicy pickley vinegar
I NOW know exactly what he's talking about. And Raoul, I have a hunch you may, too.
I've had it at German restaurants here in China served with pork. Blue Marlin in Suzhou serves it with some of its dishes. The unwashed (like me, until now) thought it was like a purple sauerkraut, but sweetish not sour. I think that's the stuff George and LE are raging on about. I even bought a German brand jar of it once at the Metro and used it with Brauts. I thought of it as purple cole slaw (without the slaw dressing).
If that's the stuff, looks like fried onions in a vinegary, slightly sweet, purpilish, pickled concoction that can be spooned atop a burger patty ala grilled onions or cole slaw (without the slaw dressing).
I am so back to Metro to grab another jar. The stuff is really good alone or with pork or brauts. Gotta try it on a burger. I know it will be good! Also a good substitute for the lack of a good pickle here in China.
(Boss, I'm sure you had the stuff in Suzhou either at Blue Marlin or one of the other places there. Southern Cross surely has it as a side or garnish for some of its "continental" dishes.)
Now, about that phuqing fried egg on a hamburger thing... aoaoaoaoao aaaaaaaaaa
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Lao San Lao Si, you may be going troppo on us. ahahahahah
Beets, I understand. America is a great and self-reliant nation, bursting with vegetable goodness, and we have all sorts of beet products on our shelves here. I'm not a big fan myself, but I can kinda see them as a salad or a side dish or some such.
But beets on a burger... aaaaaaaaaa
I can only refer to the Book of Leviticus, where it is written: "And the men of the South Island did place pickles of the red roots upon their meat and bread, and did practice such perversities before the face of The Lord, and The Lord did turn his face away from them. The Lord did say "I will smite their lands with droughts so that the crops can not grow and both man and beast will languish with thirst in the desert, and I will fill their loins with unclean cravings for the tar of leavenings, and the wild dogs will steal their infants thereof, and I shall send all manner of Hogans and Irwins to afflict them, for lo, they do commit abomination before me."
Of course, this was many thousands of years ago...but I have to believe that it still holds a warning for us today.
Amen.
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But beets on a burger...
But if you never tried it....?
This ignorance and fear of the unknown is the one thing that prevents USAnia from becoming truly great!
BTW, I didn't realise that Levi had visited NZ!
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Metro sells some pretty good frozen hamburger patties from Australia.
But for me it would have to be a veggie burger, or fish. bfbfbfbfbf
Beets, beetroot, you know - this stuff
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Yummmmmmmmm!
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What they say in Oz: You can beat an egg, but you can't beet a root! bfbfbfbfbf ahahahahah aoaoaoaoao
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But if you never tried it....?
This ignorance and fear of the unknown is the one thing that prevents USAnia from becoming truly great!
Riiiiiight. (Where the heck's that eye-roll smilie?)
It is, in part, the ability to use knowledge, logic, and intuition to deduce, predict, and avoid undesirable results that has made the USA truly great. agagagagag
I've never tried homosexuality, breast implants, or drinking goat piss, either; nor do I need to in order to know they would not be things I would enjoy.
But I can only surmise that you, with your enlightenment and courage, had to experience these things for yourself before passing judgment. uuuuuuuuuu
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I taught one of my classes how to make real burgers, using local ingredients and hand chopping the meat etc.
Very successful class. Pity it was my kung fu class not my English class, but what the hey?
Oh, yeah. Beetroots do NOT belong on burgers of any kind. Filthy stuff. Makes reverse projectile vomiting a favourable alternative to eating. Known contaminant causing dire physical mutations, zombification and red teeth.
And I am an Ozzie with a daughter who knows Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie, Oi Oi Oi. (In between 'China win win win', my charming wife's contribution to domestic harmony) This was taught to my then two year old during the Olympics, but now is a response to the respective flag of the country. Gotta get more Oz flags around here.
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And there you have it, from a man who quite frequently (I ain't writin' no blank checks here uuuuuuuuuu ) displays uncommon good sense and taste. bjbjbjbjbj
Also a man I'm awfully happy to see atop a barstool again. We ain't been gettin' enough borax in our diets lately, Poindexter... agagagagag
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And there you have it, from a man who quite frequently (I ain't writin' no blank checks here th_u ) displays uncommon good sense and taste.
But this ain't one of those times! Ferrgorsakes, he teaches kongfu!!
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Oh, Gerge...yes, OK, the man does have a useful and marketable skill, but I do hope you can come to put this jealousy thing behind you once and for all... kkkkkkkkkk
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bibibibibi It's not a jealousy thing! It's culinary!!
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It's culinary!!
Yes!!! Exactly right!!! bfbfbfbfbf
So Mr. N's status as Instructor of Whupass was completely irrelevant in the first place... uuuuuuuuuu
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Well, i gotta say that you folks took this topic to heights (or lows) i would never have imaginged. And all that nonsense about 'timtom' chocolate biscuits seem outrageous. Once Oreo's are mentioned, all competitors slink away in shame. There you have it on the biscuits. Now, regarding the burgers. Too too often here in china the one thought that is paramount is 'traditonally we do it this way' and the chinese mind stops working. after all who can compete with the 5000 years of history and tradition. i would hope that our western friends, esp the americans, like duke, can understand that tradition is not necessary for wholesome eating. in fact, i like beets any way, shape, or form and on any kind of sandwich. who are you to push 'beetless burgers' when in fact they may be healthier? once someone told me that if i put catsup (ketchup) on a burger, mayonnaise was forbidden: you can't have both on the same burger. i laughed in her face-too traditional for me. i eat as i like, what i like, when i like. and beets, spinach, broccoli, and carrots, and coming soon, asparagus are near the top of the list-hmm good!! i think i will try an 'asparagus burger' -trust me , it will be fabulous.
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Asparagus, broccoli, potato, sweet potato and onion make an awesome veggie burger! bfbfbfbfbf
Just add beetroot and you're in burger heaven!
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and follow with TimTams in all their glorious non-traditional flavours and you have a gourmet's delight.
Compared with "Tim Tam Dangerous Liaisons Chilli Choc Fling is a tongue tickling chilli chocolate cream nestled between chocolate biscuits, wrapped in a layer of smooth, dark chocolate... It’s a sensation your tastebuds won’t forget.
Tim Tam Dangerous Liaisons Black Forest Fantasy is a stream of cherry flavour snuggled inside black forest cream, sandwiched between rich chocolate biscuits and covered in a layer of tantalising chocolate you’re sure to fantasise about.
Tim Tam Dangerous Liaisons Creamy Truffle Temptation is a streak of gooey white chocolate encircled by dark chocolate cream, squeezed inside two rich chocolate biscuits and finished in temptingly smooth milk chocolate... one bite and you’ll melt with pleasure.
can Oreos possibly compete??
Nahh... I've been adventurous and tasted Oreos. Not in the same ball park!!
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Not in a gazillion years, Lotus....oh, and those truffle TimTams?
*ogasmiic*
Ting, you really haven't lived until you've tried a few TimTams. What you say is sacraligeous! And don't get me started in American choclate....Hershey's?
ahahahahah ahahahahah ahahahahah ahahahahah ahahahahah ahahahahah aaaaaaaaaa
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May God have mercy on your heathen souls. uuuuuuuuuu
Anyway, tradition doesn't have a damn thing to do with it. Some things are just....wrong...
People are free to eat any beet-laden mutation they want, of course, and the rest of the world is free to gape at them in horror.
Besides, who wants a healthy burger? They are an intrinsically decadent device. If I want health food I'll eat a salad...possibly even with beets on it.
And...it's all just a bit of teasing in the first place. Sheesh. bibibibibi
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Tim tams do beat Oreos, that's for sure. My mother's cat is named timtam so that should stop all arguments. The best biscuits of all time, though, are tollhouse cookies. Gotta be homemade, though. Anzacs are good too, but also need to be home made.
Veggie burger, blasphemy!
And I like all kinds of beets, including beetroot in many ways, eg borsht. Just not red pickled beetroot as found in cans and jars, and especially not on burgers, salads, or anything that I might be eating.
The truth is that it makes me very ill. Even the juice left on the sandwich after they take it off when you have repeatedly told them NO BEETROOT is enough. It isn't an alergy, but even the smell makes me nauseous. So I say it is an alergy, and they make me a new one without vile red mucousoidal drippings.
Gourmet burgers are the way. Many sauce types like thai style, greek, haiwaian, cream of mushroom, mexican, turkish, and so on, with varying salads and sauces, over a variety of flesh types eg chicken, fish, prawn, pork, mince, steak etc. Often the patties are rolled or marinated appropriately, eg rolled in coconut for thai style, or with herbs for greek. turkish was tabouli with homous over minted lamb patty.
That reminds me.
The local chain has prawn burgers for 10Y. It's just that KFC clone, but the prawn burgers are fine.
I think I'll have one for dinner.
Healthy burgers are possible. Just leave out the fatty oily types and simply grill the meat instead. And leave out the beetroot.
Maybe I should invent a wing chun burger. Heh.
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Veggie burger, blasphemy!
Thank you. I had been restraining myself. bjbjbjbjbj
Sure, healthy burgers are possible. But at least in the American tradition, the best ones are still the ones that leave you coated to your elbows in grease. bfbfbfbfbf
Mr. N, I especially wish I could take you to Bill's Jumbo Burgers here in Tulsa. It opened back in 1960...Old Bill would go out every morning and buy the ingredients, and sell them until he ran out of meat. At that point he'd promptly close down and go fishing.
Helluva fella. agagagagag
His children and grandchildren still run the place today, and the burgers are still a bit of onion-infused, artery-hardening heaven...
It's mentioned with other local greats at http://www.tulsaworld.com/TWPDFs/2007/SpecialSections/W_111507_OF_34.pdf (http://www.tulsaworld.com/TWPDFs/2007/SpecialSections/W_111507_OF_34.pdf)
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Well I'll just go and enjoy my vegetable goodness in peace. Mock if you will, but my arteries will be thanking me.
But at least in the American tradition, the best ones are still the ones that leave you coated to your elbows in grease.
aaaaaaaaaa You actually WANT that?
Oh yeah, a prawn burger? aaaaaaaaaa
Sometimes I think I'm so misunderstood... ahahahahah