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Thing about When in Rome that I can't quite let go of is it's a minor idiom, barely more than a quote. In context it was about changing the time of doing a thing you normally do because in a different place, they did that same thing at a different time.

But ru xiang sui su, that is something far more substantial. It's a major cultural injunction that isn't that hard for Chinese exactly because it is a major cultural injunction. They live and breathe that kind of complex identity.

The thing about how When in Rome is used in China is it more or less means learn how to be a person. That straight line between what you think, what you say, and what you do, that's very adorable, it's so cute and lovely, but after a while, it's enough. If you keep on being direct and admitting no complexity in your relationships, well, basically you're insulting us. Learn how to be a person, why don't you?


That's a whole lot heavier as a condition
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: What's in the News
« Last post by Calach Pfeffer on September 17, 2021, 11:52:02 PM »
The thing about AU turning toward US, that's a bit embarrassing, right? Because like, US exiting Iraq and Afghanistan, that's a sign of US weakness, right? US is failing, right?

Resources freed up, attention less divided, Asia coming into focus....


What I thought, way back in 2001, one Tuesday night in September, sitting in a poky Chinese apartment watching CNN, was we were all fucked. Because the Americans were going to come out into the world and everything was going to get messy.



I have no conclusion
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: What's in the News
« Last post by Calach Pfeffer on September 17, 2021, 06:32:47 PM »
Beijing rhetoric be like, stop hitting yourselves with our fists of fury that will surely fall in a blinding light of justice and rightitude..


Sorry France. EU never saved nobody.
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: What's in the News
« Last post by Calach Pfeffer on September 17, 2021, 06:19:33 PM »
Australia's decades-long balancing act between the US and China is over. It chose Washington

For more than 20 years, Australia tried to maintain good relations with both the United States and China.

It was good for trade and peaceful regional relations. But on Thursday, with the announcement of a new security deal with the United States and the United Kingdom, which will see Australia eventually field nuclear-powered submarines, Canberra made its position clear -- it has chosen Washington over Beijing.

By choosing sides, some experts say Australia has unnecessarily antagonized China, the country's largest trading partner, while at the same time making itself overly reliant on the US for protection should tensions escalate in the Indo-Pacific.

In recent years, Prime Minister Scott Morrison has moved to embrace the US more closely as a security partner, building a personal relationship with former President Donald Trump and attempting to do with same with his successor.

At the same time, relations between Canberra and Beijing have been slowly unraveling, a spiral which only worsened after the start of the Covid-19 pandemic amid questions over the virus's origins.

On Thursday, China reacted angrily to the new security deal with Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijan saying the blame for deteriorating relations "rests entirely with the Australian side."

Yun Jiang, editor of the China Neican newsletter and researcher at the Australian National University, said the deal was the "final nail in the coffin" of Australia's relationship with China, effectively eliminating any chance for rapprochement, at least in the short term.

"Until there is a new equilibrium in the international balance of power, I think the relationship is going to be tense," she said...
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: What's Making Me Happy!
« Last post by AMonk on September 16, 2021, 11:46:08 PM »
 agagagagag

Safe Travels  :surfing:
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The Bar (ON-TOPIC) / Re: I want a Chinese YouTube
« Last post by Calach Pfeffer on September 16, 2021, 09:45:20 PM »
As far as I know, Chinese video sharing sites are going more Hulu-like than Youtuber. Seems like

哔哩哔哩(゜-゜)つロ干杯~-bilibili

Bilibili is the main one now for user-generated stuffs.


As for accessing it in English, I had thought Worldlingo worked better than Google Translate.

http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products/instant_website_translator.html

But nah. They're equally glitchy.


I guess you need a local agent.


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The Champagne Cabana / Re: What's Making Me Happy!
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on September 16, 2021, 08:15:46 PM »
Just to give me a heart attack, I was told I needed special approval to visit the schools in FengHuang. llllllllll

But, it only took them about 18 hours to go from "Tell us this info for the application" to "OK, we've got you approved.  Have a nice day."  I love FengHuang.  agagagagag

When I get there, I need to ask them more about this new approval thing so I can try to figure out how to get this taken care of in other provinces.

So I'm all set to go.  My train is on the 22nd.

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The Bar (ON-TOPIC) / Re: I want a Chinese YouTube
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on September 16, 2021, 08:01:50 PM »
YouKu is one. I think there are several others.
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The Bar (ON-TOPIC) / I want a Chinese YouTube
« Last post by kitano on September 15, 2021, 09:22:34 AM »
Hey kids!

I started a new hobby last year of making video mashups of ephemera from my hard drive, set to music I make. I sometimes get amazing numbers like 300 views on my YouTube channel lol

My YouTube channel : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCncXofCGl8kjEp0I1qALj2A

But I was thinking that I could put them on the Chinese ones as well, if I get 300 on British YouTube, I could probably get numbers like 600 on Chinese YouTube. I did a Google search and signed up to one, but I can't read Chinese and am not in China, so I got stuck and gave up, just like all the best artists do
Can anyone help me put my videos up on the Chinese ones? Some of them are flagged with the age limit thing, so they might not be allowed, but some are totally fine and I'd like to try
Ta muchly
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The Champagne Cabana / Re: What's Making Me Happy!
« Last post by Escaped Lunatic on September 14, 2021, 06:10:35 PM »
Yeah.  I'm not booking tickets to Qinghai again until I personally have a paper signed by the right person to prevent that from happening again.

But, back to good news.

Sometime next week, I'm going back to my favorite town in Hunan.  I've been on 5 charity trips there and also successfully checked into small hotels with no assistance from my group twice.  Just to make absolutely sure there would be no problems, the charity's founder asked a few people to be absolutely certain that there aren't any new rules for foreigners.  There aren't.  The only thing that can get in my way is a viral outbreak on either end, and that will apply to everyone equally.

I'm thinking of leaving a day or two before everyone else.  FengHuang is a lovely place and I'd like to just spend some time relaxing there.  The other option is to stay a few days extra at the end of the trip.  Either way, if I do this, I'll have to pay a little more than average for the room, due to the trip being bracketed by Mid-Autumn Festival and National Day.
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