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9 out of 10
« on: November 05, 2012, 02:42:11 PM »
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Every schoolboy used to know that at the height of the empire, almost a quarter of the atlas was coloured pink, showing the extent of British rule.
But that oft recited fact dramatically understates the remarkable global reach achieved by this country.
A new study has found that at various times the British have invaded almost 90 per cent of the countries around the globe.
The analysis of the histories of the almost 200 countries in the world found only 22 which have never experienced an invasion by the British.
Among this select group of nations are far-off destinations such as Guatemala, Tajikistan and the Marshall Islands, as well some slightly closer to home, such as Luxembourg.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9653497/British-have-invaded-nine-out-of-ten-countries-so-look-out-Luxembourg.html
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2012, 05:08:11 PM »
I'm finding this a little hard to believe.
When did Britain invade Greenland? Or Mexico? Or Brazil? Or Kazakhstan?!? mmmmmmmmmm
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2012, 05:36:22 PM »
If you click on the link, they explain the reasoning. It is really a bit of a stretch. They are including pirates and explorers as "invaders."

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Only a comparatively small proportion of the total in Mr Laycock's list of invaded states actually formed an official part of the empire.

The remainder have been included because the British were found to have achieved some sort of military presence in the territory – however transitory – either through force, the threat of force, negotiation or payment.

Incursions by British pirates, privateers or armed explorers have also been included, provided they were operating with the approval of their government.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2012, 06:18:43 PM »
In that event, you can say the exact same about several countries.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2012, 07:36:32 PM »
Well , they've been given a pants-down by our old friends, the Yanks. They've managed something similar to the Brits, but without privateers etc, with Microsoft, McDollars etc. doing much of the work. And far more profitably too!! blblblblbl
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2012, 07:49:29 PM »
Indeed. Still and all, "invasion" is a pretty strong word....I would maintain that "some presence" is not the same as "invasion"... kkkkkkkkkk
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2012, 03:50:29 AM »
Err...Denmark has never been invaded by Britain. True, they bombed Copenhagen because we backed the wrong horse during the Napoleonic Wars and made off with our entire navy, but there was no invasion...If the parameters for this study is to be accepted, then Denmark invaded North America when some befuddled Vikings landed there and Africa because that woman from "Out of Africa" pottered around and boinked Denys Finch-Hattton there for a spell.
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2012, 04:26:59 AM »
I don't think it's invaded so much as 'kicked their ass once'

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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2012, 12:39:07 PM »
What you have to appreciate is that our invading countries and fighting wars against them is usually good for them.

For instance, Argentina. The first war against them helped them form a national identity. The second helped them get rid of their military junta and restore democracy.

Honestly, countries should be paying us to invade them. Of course we did allow many of them to show their gratitude with money, national treasures and cheap labour.

We're basically the Mitt Romney of nations. If your country isn't working, we come in, strip your assets and get you back on the right path for a very competitive commission.

You're welcome.
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2012, 02:31:22 AM »
The Telegraph - a paper for people who not only thought the empire was virtuous and glorious but who also want to retroactively expand it.  bibibibibi
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2012, 03:36:19 AM »
Quote from: Just Like Mr Benn on November 06, 2012, 12:39:07 PM
What you have to appreciate is that our invading countries and fighting wars against them is usually good for them.

For instance, Argentina. The first war against them helped them form a national identity. The second helped them get rid of their military junta and restore democracy.

Honestly, countries should be paying us to invade them. Of course we did allow many of them to show their gratitude with money, national treasures and cheap labour.

We're basically the Mitt Romney of nations. If your country isn't working, we come in, strip your assets and get you back on the right path for a very competitive commission.

You're welcome.

Interesting. Add South Korea, The Balkans, Vietnam, (to a smaller degree), and perhaps, later, Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Re: 9 out of 10
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2012, 09:39:36 AM »
I always knew there was a reason I didn't like the Britons.
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2012, 01:01:28 PM »
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The Telegraph - a paper for people who not only thought the empire was virtuous and glorious but who also want to retroactively expand it.

Never really pegged Kitano as a Telegraph reader...what's next, Daily Mail links?    aoaoaoaoao
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2012, 02:22:37 PM »
Don't know much about the English being such, but I do know that our good old USA spends circa $900 billion annually on the military industrial complex, more than the REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED. Hell, we don't have to invade em, we just got to send a few million dollar drones over to do our dirty work. Such is life. And today, Obama has been re-elected for another four years and nothing changes in both houses. More of the same. One would think that a little of that $9 billion should go towards keeping taxes down in these slow times.
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Re: 9 out of 10
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2012, 04:09:18 PM »
Quote from: MK on November 07, 2012, 01:01:28 PM
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The Telegraph - a paper for people who not only thought the empire was virtuous and glorious but who also want to retroactively expand it.

Never really pegged Kitano as a Telegraph reader...what's next, Daily Mail links?    aoaoaoaoao

I don't read it someone linked it to me on faceache

The Telegraph does sometimes have good articles in it, it's good to read a lot of viewpoints as well...
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