Raoul's China Saloon (V5.0) Beta
The Bar Room => The BS-Wrestling Pit => Topic started by: Maifeilan on April 04, 2013, 05:25:28 PM
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Please note that this was not a single incident of one creepy mannequin head having been put down in a hurry to attend to some urgency or other; there were a phalanx of these pairings carefully arranged thusly, as seen here:
(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/WTF_zpsa8fc000e.jpg)
My question is, why? In the same instant that such a freakshow enters my field of vision I begin to wonder ... what happened here mmmmmmmmmm ? Someone was charged with setting up some kind of attention-getting display thereby to advertise some shiny/colourful new bargain to be had. They had a bin of glossy, chalk white male torsos and some banner-sash like things, natch ... they got busy slapping the bargoon garment on a torso, then the sash ... they stood back to survey the effect and thought to themselves, "HEY! You know what THIS needs, eh?!"...
Returning to the scene moments later with a bag of slightly smaller scale, stylistically completely different, pinkish and bowling-ball bald female heads -
(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/head_zpsa5b52228.jpg)
- this happened. Right? Sure. OF COURSE. I would have done EXACTLY the same thing. o_O.
Now, all I can do is stand there in awe wishing I'D thought of that FIRST.
The mannequin at work with Chinese characteristics = WHERE is my camera/phone.
Yesterday I spotted the window display in a fairly upscale children's clothing shop ... three child mannequins dressed for spring outings - only one with a head, the most fucked up pink hat I could ever imagine placing on a child's head, plonked onto one of the two child mannequins that had no head, jauntily askew. o_O
Don't get me wrong - I don't want this sort of thing to stop - kkkkkkkkkk .
I just want to know - why?
... aaaaaaaaaaaand ... discuss: agagagagag
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White walkers south of the wall!!!
Winter is coming!!!
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ROFL! agagagagag
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I was re-watching the first episode of the new season og GoT whilst browsing this thread. Mannequins have always creeped me out. Have you ever felt like you are being watched and turned round only to find just a mannequin there? They are odd things.
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I was re-watching the first episode of the new season og GoT whilst browsing this thread. Mannequins have always creeped me out. Have you ever felt like you are being watched and turned round only to find just a mannequin there? They are odd things.
Even more unnerving when they are naked, what with their lack of nipples and *junk*.
Which in turn makes me think of the 'un-sullied' that appear in GoT latest episode.
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I've seen some in the US with nipples on the breasts - or else my machismo was enough to make even a plastic girl's nipples stand erect. ababababab
I must admin that headless ones (with or without a spare head on a table) are creepy, but I've seen worse. aoaoaoaoao aoaoaoaoao aoaoaoaoao
The creepiest looking ones I've seen in China have heads - with the tops lopped off just above eyebrow level. Is this some sort of veiled reference to a terrible industrial accident or an ancient method of execution? mmmmmmmmmm
Second creepiest - child mannikins with faceless white cloth heads - looks sort of like the work of some bizarre serial killer who likes to put a cloth bag over the heads of his victims before murdering them. aqaqaqaqaq
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Second creepiest - child mannikins with faceless white cloth heads - looks sort of like the work of some bizarre serial killer who likes to put a cloth bag over the heads of his victims before murdering them. aqaqaqaqaq
- couldn't agree more ...
Exhibit B:
(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/creepy2_zps9aaae717.jpg)
aoaoaoaoao
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I recently walked into the oldest, and somewhat swanky, western department store in Guangzhou, the GZ Friendship Store, and there was a clothing shop inside with a mannequin in *exactly* the same pose as the milk bar from Kubrick's 1971 film, "A Clockwork Orange". It was clothed, but dayum.
Saddle up, me droogies!
(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4943117449430171&pid=15.1)
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Go back and get a pic!!!
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My camera died last summer and I have a dumb phone, but if possible I'll try to get it if available. You know how Chinese stores are, they open, close, remodel to exactly the same thing, open, close, remodel...
I once saw a small, cheap restaurant that looked like every other small, cheap restaurant around it, I saw it close. It was remodeled fore two months (could have been done in a weekend), looked *exactly* the same as before remodel was done over winter break, never opened, "closed", was remodeled almost exactly as before, opened, stayed in business about a month, then finally closed again. Now it's a simple fruit shop with no need for any of the tables, counters, etc. that were built and torn down twice.
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(http://changshanotes.smugmug.com/photos/i-8TGJHM8/0/L/i-8TGJHM8-L.jpg)
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(http://changshanotes.smugmug.com/photos/i-cNNm7nQ/0/L/i-cNNm7nQ-L.jpg)
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I wonder what was being advertised in the first photo Stil? afafafafaf The manequin in the second didn't look too impressed. ahahahahah
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(http://changshanotes.smugmug.com/photos/i-zZNq9hw/0/L/i-zZNq9hw-L.jpg)
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This thread has officially become AWESOME, thanks to Stil. agagagagag
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(http://changshanotes.smugmug.com/Places/Changsha-Random/i-vWQp3cQ/0/1024x1024/DSC07265-1024x1024.jpg)
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Hmmmmmm. Micro-fibre towels.......and definitely a cute mannequin!
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I think I dated her once, or twice.
I also think she turned me down. I was too shallow
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There's a joke there about the size of her open mouth and knowing it was you she was dating Day Dreamer.
Of course I won't go there. uuuuuuuuuu
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bkbkbkbkbk axaxaxaxax
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(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/mannequins-dont-need-pants4web_zps478fe968.jpg)
... because, really, if you aren't selling pants ...
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A cautionary tale:
(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/chengdu-mannequin1_zps18224d57.jpg)
http://shanghaiist.com/2013/04/10/chinese_man_french-kisses_gropes_statues_of_women_in_street.php (http://shanghaiist.com/2013/04/10/chinese_man_french-kisses_gropes_statues_of_women_in_street.php)
... these aren't mannequins strictly speaking, however - I do think mannequins everywhere should take note - their mobility issues put them in a certain kind of danger with a certain kind of person, ESPECIALLY IF THEY AREN'T WEARING ANY PANTS!!!
aoaoaoaoao
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I know she is a dummy but after years in China .... !!!
(http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae15/xwarrior6/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00007_zps9cef3e73.jpg) (http://s953.photobucket.com/user/xwarrior6/media/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00007_zps9cef3e73.jpg.html)
A bad hair day.
(http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae15/xwarrior6/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00004_zpsed369849.jpg) (http://s953.photobucket.com/user/xwarrior6/media/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00004_zpsed369849.jpg.html)
Don't look at me, they said it!
(http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae15/xwarrior6/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00010_zps1b582730.jpg) (http://s953.photobucket.com/user/xwarrior6/media/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00010_zps1b582730.jpg.html)
This is where bad girls go.
(http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae15/xwarrior6/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00009_zpsc036f6dd.jpg) (http://s953.photobucket.com/user/xwarrior6/media/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00009_zpsc036f6dd.jpg.html)
Scary, eh!
(http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae15/xwarrior6/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00002_zps1894fa1a.jpg) (http://s953.photobucket.com/user/xwarrior6/media/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00002_zps1894fa1a.jpg.html)
Never turn your back on a customer, or she may try to defenestrate herself.
(http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae15/xwarrior6/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/IMG_4048_zps031d67cd.jpg) (http://s953.photobucket.com/user/xwarrior6/media/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/IMG_4048_zps031d67cd.jpg.html)
Research shows that people with heads smile more than those without heads.
(http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae15/xwarrior6/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00013_zpsf92ccab2.jpg) (http://s953.photobucket.com/user/xwarrior6/media/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00013_zpsf92ccab2.jpg.html)
Minimalist window dressing
(http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae15/xwarrior6/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00012_zps34572726.jpg) (http://s953.photobucket.com/user/xwarrior6/media/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00012_zps34572726.jpg.html)
Something like that joke about putting a paper bag over their heads before sex.
(http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae15/xwarrior6/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00011_zpsda4a4e91.jpg) (http://s953.photobucket.com/user/xwarrior6/media/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00011_zpsda4a4e91.jpg.html)
Should be one hanging in every wardrobe.
(http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae15/xwarrior6/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00001_zpsf4e8988b.jpg) (http://s953.photobucket.com/user/xwarrior6/media/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00001_zpsf4e8988b.jpg.html)
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Now that's what I call a cornucopia AND some really stellar captioning bfbfbfbfbf
Loved, loved, loved the shot of the bad girl corner.
.loved.
.it.
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(http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae15/xwarrior6/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00012_zps34572726.jpg) (http://s953.photobucket.com/user/xwarrior6/media/shop%20dummies%20in%20China/Image00012_zps34572726.jpg.html)
This is also a show-stopper, xwarrior!
... among other questions that arise as I contemplate this image, "Why mannequins? Why were you built with detachable right legs...?"
o_O
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agagagagag agagagagag agagagagag agagagagag
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(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/sad-mannequin_zps31ba3bd5.jpg) (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/wooo_O/media/sad-mannequin_zps31ba3bd5.jpg.html)
Yah, so this is always a melancholy sight for me - abandoned mannequin...
(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/sad-mannequin-2_zps57559751.jpg) (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/wooo_O/media/sad-mannequin-2_zps57559751.jpg.html)
The two bits of packing twine used thusly to put her in an upright position, tying her by her neck and ankles to the post, conjure up awful unspeakable things, because, of course, mannequins are life-size representations of human beings. It goes without saying that this is what gives them the power to creep us the fuck out - like clowns, only different.
So of course I was morbidly fascinated with this mannequin manifestation in a way that possibly only art college graduates who wrestled with majoring in photography are wont to do ... and then I recalled another abandoned mannequin I caught last year.
I'll be damned if I can find the shot; I looked and looked and it is not in evidence. Suffice it to say that abandoned femmannequin was lying where she was chucked in a heap of trash.
Remembering that in contrast with this here I find myself ruminating... Did whomever was appointed the task of discarding this tireless servant of the clothing trade first toss her out in similar fashion, and then, feeling a twinge of discomfort, some kind of associative squirmy ill-at-easeness at the sight of her there, a feeling s/he would never admit to experiencing of course but one that rooted them there in a moment of unsettled pause nonetheless, did that person then stoop to stand mannequin up and devise this quick means of affording her/it/us at least this much dignity ... ?
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xwarrior and maifelan thanks so much for showing these ladies and the "interesting" lives they lead. bfbfbfbfbf ahahahahah I will now make it my business to see if the Aussie "ladies" have the same opportunities. uuuuuuuuuu Somehow, I don't think it would be permitted. bibibibibi
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(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/disco-bondage-mannequin_zpse08769a8.jpg) (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/wooo_O/media/disco-bondage-mannequin_zpse08769a8.jpg.html)
um... what? mmmmmmmmmm.
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Bondage gear? Kidnapping supplies? Mannequins being held hostage? mmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm
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...if you're anything like me, you're frequently captivated all over again, as though for the very first time, by the appearance of such things as were common enough back 'home', mannequin bits for instance, and how China manages to interweave them into public space in an entirely unexpected way...
(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/disassembly_zpsd4dc6d1f.jpg) (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/wooo_O/media/disassembly_zpsd4dc6d1f.jpg.html)
What I mean is this delightful slice of imminent assembly/disassembly in progress would almost certainly never occur on a sidewalk in Kanuckistan, while here it's as common as 你好。。。photographs like this throw themselves at you by the dozen.
I took this last year in Kunming. Two hours later I walked by in the other direction, and manly mannequin was just as you see him here, all in his untogetherness, laid out with an odd sort of precision, unmoved, a monument to patience...
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Thanks Maifeilan! bfbfbfbfbf The mind Boggles! Maybe they heard something about Italian men. Rather than locking up their daughters, they decided to tie up the men. ahahahahah
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It's Jimmy Hoffa!
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(http://changshanotes.smugmug.com/photos/i-jzSvr5x/0/1600x1600/i-jzSvr5x-1600x1600.jpg)
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Thanks Stil. How nice of them to strategically place that hand and block the view. bibibibibi
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(http://changshanotes.smugmug.com/photos/i-jJFCPrL/0/L/i-jJFCPrL-L.jpg)
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(http://changshanotes.smugmug.com/photos/i-L3Z8qT3/0/L/i-L3Z8qT3-L.jpg)
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Thanks for the photos Stil! bfbfbfbfbf I'll leave the comments for the first one to the guys. ahahahahah In the second one, my comment is "Now that is what I call a Peter warmer!" aoaoaoaoao
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Looking at the second last pic (two pair if legs in an alley), I have to wonder if this is how third world mannequins end up when they've been kidnapped and had their organs harvested.
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(http://changshanotes.smugmug.com/photos/i-zTDFTHK/0/1024x1024/i-zTDFTHK-1024x1024.jpg)
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I think this bloke has had an organ harvested. ahahahahah Stil, do you know what is written on the paper stuck to his torso?
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Must have been a zombie attack. He lost both of his brains. ahahahahah
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Stil, do you know what is written on the paper stuck to his torso?
It looks like
出售模特共有四个 chūshòu mótè gòng yǒu sìgè
There are 4 of the mannequins for sale.
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I definately don't want the one on the far right
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When I took this photo in 2007 my interest was not in the mannequin. It was taken while I stood in the street and admired the painstaking workmanship of the signage.
"Hong Bin, skilled artisan and signwriter of No.61 Work Group, finished the final curlicue with a flourish and stepped back to admire his work. While the signage was limited to a small shop window there was some satisfaction to be gained from the knowledge that he was the first in the city to complete a sign in the English language. Only a Master of the craft would have had the necessary skills to accomplish such a task.
For all that, there was something about the signage that niggled away in the back of his mind. There had been no problem replicating the English letters - the simple letters of the barbarian language were, as it turned out, easily copied. No, his feelings of uneasiness had started when inscribing the few Chinese characters that introduced the phone number.
A muffled scream shattered his reverie. He turned in time to see Shop Boss snatch up a cleaver from his desk and advance towards him ..........."
(http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae15/xwarrior6/junk%20-%20odds%20and%20ends%20from%20other%20places/Image30001_zps71e88f44.jpg) (http://s953.photobucket.com/user/xwarrior6/media/junk%20-%20odds%20and%20ends%20from%20other%20places/Image30001_zps71e88f44.jpg.html)
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You thought the dress would look pretty on you?
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(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8360/faece.jpg) (http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8360/faece.jpg)
Fighting!
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I think these are supposed to be male mannequins. Definitely not Canadian though.
(http://changshanotes.smugmug.com/photos/i-kmgtBWL/0/L/i-kmgtBWL-L.jpg)
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Definitely not any Aussie I've seen over 6 months old either. Perhaps these guys were caught in a blizzard with their pants down, ahahahahah Thanks for the photo Stil. bfbfbfbfbf
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(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/bed-bath-and-beyond-warrior_zpsb6630cbe.jpg) (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/wooo_O/media/bed-bath-and-beyond-warrior_zpsb6630cbe.jpg.html)
... ultra-mega-bed-bath-and-beyond-mannequin-warrior ... whomever came up with this is wasted on renrenle - and I applaud them for being invisibly AMAZING. bfbfbfbfbf
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(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/WP_20130612_034_zpsea823924.jpg) (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/wooo_O/media/WP_20130612_034_zpsea823924.jpg.html)
(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/WP_20130612_076_zps4c1fb8fe.jpg) (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/wooo_O/media/WP_20130612_076_zps4c1fb8fe.jpg.html)
(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/WP_20130612_036_zps3e9a56a6.jpg) (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/wooo_O/media/WP_20130612_036_zps3e9a56a6.jpg.html)
(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/WP_20130612_035_zps029f4e4f.jpg) (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/wooo_O/media/WP_20130612_035_zps029f4e4f.jpg.html)
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(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/WP_20130612_038_zps9e43ed8e.jpg) (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/wooo_O/media/WP_20130612_038_zps9e43ed8e.jpg.html)
(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/windowfemmequinz1_zpsd13ef8a0.jpg) (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/wooo_O/media/windowfemmequinz1_zpsd13ef8a0.jpg.html)
(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/WP_20130612_037_zps0307c978.jpg) (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/wooo_O/media/WP_20130612_037_zps0307c978.jpg.html)
(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o590/wooo_O/WP_20130612_032_zpseade8a0c.jpg) (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/wooo_O/media/WP_20130612_032_zpseade8a0c.jpg.html)
post script (Chengdu femmequins & mannequins at night in some kind of vaguely narrative sequence ...?)
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Thanks for the photos Maifeilan! bfbfbfbfbf Not being racist or sexist here, but I wonder if any of the mannequins anywhere, look like the main inhabitants of the Country? The warrior comes close!
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(http://changshanotes.smugmug.com/photos/i-rnq7JCW/1/L/i-rnq7JCW-L.jpg)
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I didn't know Marie Antoinette still did modelling. ahahahahah
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Thanks Stil. bfbfbfbfbf That lady could be a main inhabitant of several countries. bfbfbfbfbf
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(http://changshanotes.smugmug.com/Street-Scenes/A-Walk-After-Work-V/i-3F5kJ4r/0/1024x1024/20130623-DSC00588-Edit-Edit-1024x1024.jpg)
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(http://changshanotes.smugmug.com/photos/i-4PDSPLt/0/1024x1024/i-4PDSPLt-1024x1024.jpg)
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agagagagag agagagagag agagagagag
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Mannequin Warrior needs a date. akakakakak
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Mannequin Warrior needs a date. akakakakak
pick me! pick me! bhbhbhbhbh
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Thanks xwarrior! bfbfbfbfbf
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I love the one sitting on the bench with her head turned toward the camera. It's as if she is saying, "some of them look almost alive"
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It was a hell of a party.
(http://changshanotes.smugmug.com/Street-Scenes/Changsha-Streets-B/i-s2j3982/1/1200x1200/20140829-DSC04397-Edit-1200x1200.jpg)
(http://changshanotes.smugmug.com/Street-Scenes/Changsha-Streets-B/i-h68cXkP/1/1200x1200/20140829-DSC04393-Edit-1200x1200.jpg)
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Thanks Stil! bfbfbfbfbf I wonder what the bloke looks like? uuuuuuuuuu
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(http://changshanotes.smugmug.com/Places/Xingsha/i-TLBJMbf/0/1024x1024/STIL0168-Edit-1024x1024.jpg)
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"Why?" indeed. The mind boggles. What is the story Stil?
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"Why?" indeed. The mind boggles. What is the story Stil?
TIFC
Granny, I never even thought about why when I took the shot.
You got me thinking and I wrote a short post about it here Caged (http://changshanotes.com/blog/2014/11/22/caged)
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Great shot, Stil.
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Stil, if you do find an answer, will you let me know? As "the den" is becoming full of Asians, I am trying to understand how they think. I am often tempted to tell a "dirty" joke to one of the few who acknowledge me. I would love to know if their humour is similar to mine. bfbfbfbfbf
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It's just junk Granny. The cage is what you put over windows here to keep thieves from getting in and the mannequins were probably for a children's store that closed and the new tenants didn't want it.
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I'm certainly learning to expect the unexpected Stil! bfbfbfbfbf