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Da Woiks: Links, Library, News and Other Stuff More Useful Than You Are => Le Laowai Liberation League Labor & Lifestyle Lending Library (ON-TOPIC) => Topic started by: Raoul F. Duke on April 23, 2007, 10:12:29 AM
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Welcome to China!
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I've been called a bastard before. It's true. uuuuuuuuuu
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We need Smellorama for a the true effect.
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Yeah. When my dad visited last summer, he made a point of completely avoiding any form of public lavatorial facility, always making sure he only needed to utilise it when at home...
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you forgot to mention that the green seen through the hole is the underbrush Under the bathroom...
da poopoo drops to the open ground below... `saves plenty on plumbing bfbfbfbfbf
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Wow - semi-private cubicles..you do live a life of luxury in the south of China.
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You just talked amonk out of coming to visit asasasasas
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And that is exactly the reason why avoided using public restrooms for the entire year I was in China.
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You just talked amonk out of coming to visit asasasasas
Not yet...but Hubby may see things differently!! Will wait until after he's finished breakfast to show him the pix.
Questions: Is this His, Hers, or Everyone's??? And does one face inward or outward?? And is there a door (behind the camera)??
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Train your little bodies people. Use your mind for control. That way you will never be caught short in such disgusting surroundings. I have yet to use a squat in 5.5 years here.( Touch wood!) Pissing is an exception.....for those of us able to stand while accomplishing such a feat.....I have pissed on a pile of writhing maggots on more than one occasion!! Feel better now?? bbbbbbbbbb
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What you see is what you get AM... as for the direction you face, depend on what part of you body you're most comfortable displaying in public. kkkkkkkkkk For me it's neither..... I go before I leave home and then just hold it. kkkkkkkkkk
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Eeew! Thanks for the imagery George. aaaaaaaaaa
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Thanks for the imagery George.
Thought you'd like it!!
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Amonk, local practice is to face outward. Usually the sexes are separated. There will probably be some sort of barrier between where you do your business and the outside world, although it may only be a short wall you walk around. There are truly horrendous facilities here - as Raoul so kindly shared, but most are tolerable.
"Holding it" is not an ability I have been blessed with. When you gotta go, you gotta go. Carry scented tissues and wear hip waders and you'll be okay.
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Yeah, when visiting the typical outdoor public ones up here you face outwards, balanced on two planks of wood across the hole. In winter you have to be careful not to squat too low as the frozen stuff piles pretty high...
Most of them have chest-high high walls and are single-sex with about six or more planks of wood for a group to squat.The biggest daughter and I visited had about space for 40 women to simultaneously squat.
I've only been to one a handful of times, but some of them can be fun...good conversations get going when they realise there is a laowei in their midst.
Oh, and you pray like hell that the boards won't break...and you learn to balance on the slippery wood.
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I have to say, that even though many toilets in China are grim, I'm glad that squat toilets rather than western toilets are the norm. Imagine how filthy the rim of a western public toilet could get here. It doesn't bear thinking about.
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At times like these, I could almost feel sorry for women......almost!! ahahahahah ahahahahah
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At one of our NZ universities we had to put notices up in different languages telling people not to squat on the 'western loos'- they ended up building some squats.
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They pee all over where your feet should go and then they also walk out with the tattle-tale dribbles down their trouser legs. Daughter and I used to laugh at it when we first came, but now it's just part of daily life. It's like the men with their fly down - it used to make us glance aghast...but now it's normal.
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Imagine how filthy the rim of a western public toilet could get here.
This is so true, i still find it funny when I've had a Chinese visitor to my home and used the bathroom after them, only to see their footprints all over the seat. They don't seem to like not squatting. It confuses some.
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I had absolutely never given thought that a local might stand on the toilet seat, that's quite interesting. My TA would lift the seat when she used my loo.
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unbelievable. We have one KFC here and that's it for western chain restaurants, if I have ta go when uptown, I use the KFC one. Thank goodness the ladies side doesn't have urinals...eeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww aaaaaaaaaa
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Last week in McDonalds in Guangzhou all the toilets were western. One guy must have been so confused he filled the urinal with bqbqbqbqbq bqbqbqbqbq bqbqbqbqbq
They do this a lot with small children. Just hold them up to the urinal. I'm sure it feels quite sophisticated compared to the curbs.
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Could be worse.
I once saw a man casually squat his little boy down on the floor in the middle of a KFC. aoaoaoaoao
I made sure to stand there and stare at the guy in unabashed gaping horror for a full 10 minutes... ararararar
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That was your reaction.....what about the other patrons? or the KFC Staff? How did they react?
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I don't think anyone even looked up from their chicken "hamburgers". Lucky them. I happened to see it because I was entering the restaurant at the time. It was hard to miss.. aqaqaqaqaq aaaaaaaaaa
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Oh, I've seen kids peeing and pooing in the middle of KFC and McDonalds quite a few times, especially 5 years back in Chengdu and Shenzhen. How did the staff react? They all laughed and giggled along with parents/caretakers/grandparents and the rest of the cheerful crowd that was enjoying their plastic burgers.
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So...is this a not uncommon occurrence in ALL restaurants? Or only in the Western-style ones? Would the parents be as quick to do the same in someone's Home?
In any case......... asasasasas asasasasas llllllllll llllllllll cbcbcbcbcb
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I haven't seen this in restaurants, although big chunky morning hacks directly onto the carpet next to the table are de rigeur in places - especially Guangxi and Guangdong that I have seen, which is URTI kingdom plus. This includes all the gnarly sound effects.
That was like, eeeeewwww!
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I haven't seen it up here, either. But daughter did see a baby pooping in a handbasin once.
And big chunky morning hacks happen, but mainly outside...inside, it's usually a delicate little dribble to the side - which is why nobody puts their bags on the floor.
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OK. Let's see if I've got this right.....China is an Emerging Economic Power, whose sanitary habits are firmly entrenched in the Middle Ages! bibibibibi
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Let's put it this way:
China was sort of forced first to stay underdeveloped and then - to develop really fast. Technical progress is prevailing over the moral (%% wise).
It is happening in India as well. Of course two countries are very different!
As Missi said: we like it here despite all those things that normally make us shrug. Things that they were/are taught to be normal and we are taught to be abnormal.
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Urine is sterile. It's probably the cleanest the code reader has ever been. (maybe the check out girl too.)
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Yes, Stil. You are mostly welcome to start practicing urinotheraphy agagagagag
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Let's put it this way:
China was sort of forced first to stay underdeveloped and then - to develop really fast. Technical progress is prevailing over the moral (%% wise).
It is happening in India as well. Of course two countries are very different!
As Missi said: we like it here despite all those things that normally make us shrug. Things that they were/are taught to be normal and we are taught to be abnormal.
Yes. Thing is, India has many things that are extremely familiar, like English speaking people, democracy, freedom of speech, etc, all of which are the result of the British rule. On the other hand it has poverty the like of which I have never seen in China, even in the most rundown parts.
To go back to the bog theme, the Indians would never countenace the sort of communal bogs the chinese have. Even though they are always squats, there is always your own, private cubicle...
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Urine is sterile. It's probably the cleanest the code reader has ever been. (maybe the check out girl too.)
Very sterile - when swimming if you get stung by a jelly-fish you have to get someone to piddle on it ASAP. bbbbbbbbbb
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Very sterile - when swimming if you get stung by a jelly-fish you have to get someone to piddle on it ASAP. bbbbbbbbbb
Yes. Being a good samaritan I pee on everybody I see swimming just in case they get stung by a jellyfish.
The people at my local pool don't seem to reconise how generous I am.
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No jelly-fish in indoor pools Stil...you're better just peeing outside.
Is the pooping and peeing in public places common in most parts of China? We have a regular pooper and peeer who does his morning business just in front of our apartments, a lovely old man who sometimes has difficulty squatting properly.
And it's not only in front of our apartment - walking through the park can be an interesting experience at times, and in winter it wasn't even just the park but the street gutters as well.
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Urine is sterile if the person is healthy. Cleaner than tap water in this respect, if less congenial in terms of nitrates etc.
Pissing on people is considered antisocial. Those who wish to consider it should perhaps carry a box jelly fish to facilitate their personal interactions.
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Pissing on people is considered antisocial. Those who wish to consider it should perhaps carry a box jelly fish to facilitate their personal interactions.
Or you become a teacher on an island...where it says in the first aid kit that if a student is stung by a jellyfish, you must urinate on them.
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In high school, I worked in wardrobe at a diving show. When the divers would get out of the water, they would all blow their noses on the ground in a very grand and noisy way. I never, ever got used to it. I suppose I won't in China either.
That picture actually gave me nightmares, but I think I can handle it :)
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That picture IS the nightmare...unfortunately one that's too often real. aoaoaoaoao
No, wait...Gerge's lecture on self-control, seen early in the thread...THAT'S the real nightmare. apapapapap
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Jeez, thanks for resurrecting this older thread Raoul so us newbies would make sure not to miss it. aaaaaaaaaa
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You know you're in China when you see this thread and just say, "yeah, I've seen worse."
aoaoaoaoao
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I still love telling people about my toilet adventures in China. The expression on their faces by the end of the story is priceless...can't wait to see my friends I haven't seen in 4 years this weekend so I can tell all my wonderful horror stories.
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I think I told this story on a previous incarnation of Raoul's, but I'll tell it again.
I was travelling from singsongbanana (xixiangbana? something like that) back to Kunming on a sleeper bus. The bus pulled up at a toilet. We all got out, stretch legs, some people smoking etc as per usual. There was garbage piled in mounds around the entrance to the toilet. I was dubious. It looked bad from the outside. I pondered whether to go now, or wait until the next stop. I watched as a guy went in, walked quickly and immediately back out, then pissed down the hill instead. Some toilets even the locals can't stand.
I decided to wait until the next stop, got back on the bus and went back to sleep.
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note to self..... bladder training for the next eight weeks!!!! That is feral, and GROSS!!! aaaaaaaaaa
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Yeah this is pretty bad. I told my mom and dad before they visited me for the first time... START SQUATTING. They didn't get it.
How many of you actually think that this is a better way now or more clean or what. I felt that way after maybe 3 years in China. I could read, write or whatever (if there was a light) in these. No skin touching a thing... I actually preferred these... I mean not this one pictured....ugh.
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.. a number of medical benefits are attributed to the squat toilet. It has been suggested that the squatting strengthens the pelvic muscles of females, reducing the likelihood of incontinence. Furthermore, it is said that this toilet builds up strength in the hips, and improves breathing and concentration. The upright squatting position also allows wastes to be eliminated more quickly and completely, reducing fecal transit time. Slow fecal transit is a major risk factor for colon cancer. Other studies find that squatting prevents and cures hemorrhoids. Assuming and maintaining the squatting position on a regular basis may also help maintain the flexibility of the knees.
I definitely prefer squatting when I have 'la duzi' - much better.
Not so easy to sit and read though, although in one squat toilet I did see a sign, at eye level, telling people NOT to read!!
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I agree. "Holding it＂ ｉｓ ｅａｓｉｅｒ ｓａｉｄ ｔｈａｎ ｄｏｎｅ． llllllllll
Amonk, local practice is to face outward. Usually the sexes are separated. There will probably be some sort of barrier between where you do your business and the outside world, although it may only be a short wall you walk around. There are truly horrendous facilities here - as Raoul so kindly shared, but most are tolerable.
"Holding it" is not an ability I have been blessed with. When you gotta go, you gotta go. Carry scented tissues and wear hip waders and you'll be okay.
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Nah, it's easy...I lived in Nanchang for a year and never once used a squatter...lots of bran, rye bread and the ability to run home is all ya need agagagagag agagagagag
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I have two toilets, one western the other Chinese. I only use the Chinese one. I just dust off the western one for foreign guests. I really don't want to sit. Seems such a terribly filthy thing to do now.
It's also a hell of a lot easier to clean a Chinese toilet.
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I'm with you, Stil. I spent some time in Beijing, and on campus they had me in a "Turkish toilet" for a while. Honestly, (and I'm not trying to be gross), but they were some of the best "movements" I've had in a long time. I just felt good afterwards. Once, I got the hang of it. Of course, it took a good solid week to get the hang of it, and then build up the courage to go. My favorite quote on the subject: "They require the balance of an acrobat, the stamina of a marathon runner, and the aim of a sharpshooter. I enjoyed none of those talents, and required many hours of cleaning up." Me
They were sometimes not the boon they seemed. I was on a train to Xi'an once and there were two bathrooms. One had a line, the other hadn't, so my friends and I stood in front of the empty one, waiting for it's occupant to come out. After about ten minutes (which we barely noticed, cause we were having a good time), this kid strolled out of the bathroom. His t-shirt was completely wet, and when we looked in after him he had somehow missed the squat toilet, and, well, it was everywhere! We got in line at the other one asap, and didn't really have any problems after that. If you're wondering how me managed on the moving train: There was a bar.
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Lot of the newer trains seem to have western throne toilets. You can imagine how filthy they get; give me a squatter over that anyday. As has been said, at least you don't have to touch anything in the squats.
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i don't mind using squatting toilets, and i agree that it's sometimes better when you have a big load, but no way would i use the public toilets here squatting in full view of everyone and pooping into a filthy hole. even dogs go off to poop if they can
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And three years on from the original post and they are still just as bad!
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Thanks for all the tips guys, I am practicing at home ( i will arrive in china in February) And i really freaked out my roommate. bfbfbfbfbf
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Naaah, I like my approach better.
During my first China experiences back in the 1980s, I realized to my amazement that in China I could suddenly go days, even weeks without passing anything other than urine...allowing me to avoid the issue altogether. bjbjbjbjbj
I credit sheer horror, breath control, and psychotropic drugs. aeaeaeaeae
Besides, given the way Chinese public bathrooms tend to look and smell, does it really matter which kind of toilet it contains? kkkkkkkkkk aaaaaaaaaa
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At least the pics of this toilet does not contain the standard "poo mountain" of many missed and unflushed Dookies!
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WOW, just wow. effin wow. OMG, wow.
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WOW, just wow. effin wow. OMG, wow.
Another adventurous soul boldly prepares to embark on a trip to China! bjbjbjbjbj
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Actually I would consider the toilet in the pic to be quite clean by most public shithole standards.
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jpd01: Agreed!